tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post1265690478910844404..comments2024-03-28T21:17:45.398-05:00Comments on A MOMENT OF CEREBUS: Judenhass: "It Made Neil Gaiman Cry..."A Moment Of Cerebushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02718525538144698138noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-35892013071938916512014-11-30T23:19:29.064-06:002014-11-30T23:19:29.064-06:00Yep, those are other opinions all right; I recogni...Yep, those are other opinions all right; I recognized them right away. Some of them are from people whose own work I enjoy and respect. The evidence suggests that the public agrees more with me. As I said, as long as <i>Judenhass</i> is available online, people who want it can obtain it. And, while my opinion of <i>Judenhass</i> does not rise, I think its availability is a net good.<br /><br /> -- Damian T. Lloyd, pto<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-50690437769836876522014-11-30T20:22:44.545-06:002014-11-30T20:22:44.545-06:00"Judenhass deserves to be forgotten. It's..."Judenhass deserves to be forgotten. It's poor-quality work that trivializes a serious subject"<br /><br />That is certainly an opinion. Here are some others:<br /><br />"Judenhass is an astonishing piece of work. Painful and real and unflinching. I don't remember the last comic I read that made me cry, but this did."<br /><br />- Neil Gaiman<br /><br /><br />"To apply the term ‘beautiful’ to this book may be a misnomer considering the subject matter, but its impact cannot be denied."<br /><br />- Joe Kubert<br /> <br /><br />"This wise, appalled, deeply humane response to an endless shock and sorrow could come only from the profoundly thoughtful Dave Sim."<br /><br />- Peter Straub<br /><br /> <br />"Dave Sim's "Judenhass" is a noble enterprise, reminding us of a painful and shameful part of human history. His writing and artwork are dramatic"<br /><br />- Jean Shuster Peavy<br />Sister of Joe Shuster<br />Artist-Creator of SUPERMAN<br /><br /><br />"Judenhass is endlessly disturbing, often unpleasant and incessantly horrifying in its stark coldness. The quotes should never be forgotten or made light of. It is why all people of good will say, 'Never again.'"<br /><br /> - Marv Wolfman<br /><br /> <br />As usual, trailblazing Dave Sim is way out in front. Look what he has accomplished in Judenhass. He begins at the beginning, defining his terms, as he looks at an ancient and world-wide problem from a fresh perspective. <br /><br /> - Robin Snyder<br />Editor/Publisher - The ComicsEddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11831826350149920878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-37313485795051959072014-11-30T18:04:16.705-06:002014-11-30T18:04:16.705-06:00I fear, Jeff, that a post on some guy's comics...I fear, Jeff, that a post on some guy's comics-fan blog is a smaller step forward than the announcement on AMOC that <i>Judenhass</i> is in the public domain.<br /><br />I say this not to rain on your parade, but to remind those of us who read and post here -- and thus have a pre-existing interest in <i>Cerebus</i>, Dave Sim, and Dave's other work -- that most of the comics audience (never mind the real world) isn't even aware of those things. <i>Cerebus</i> is largely forgotten; Dave is known, if he is known at all, as an irrelevant, crazy old crank; nobody paid any attention to <i>Judenhass</i> even when it was current. We shouldn't find ourselves guilty of feeling that any of these is more important than is objectively the case.<br /><br /><i>Judenhass</i> deserves to be forgotten. It's poor-quality work that trivializes a serious subject. Keeping it available online for free is the ideal place for it. The few people in the world who are interested can obtain it without cost. It's an ideal example of how the Web can archive ephemera.<br /><br />What we should keep an eye on is the eventual sales-figures on the republished <i>Cerebus</i> phone-books. As Dave himself said, the likeliest outcome is that he will die in obscurity, the work itself forgotten. We seem to be embarked down that trail. Can we alter course? If the sell-through on the phone-books is solid, it suggests that we can.<br /><br />I think it would be a shame for <i>Cerebus</i> to be forgotten. Is it one of the greatest works of art ever produced? Of course not. But it is worthy of study by those interested in comics as a medium -- both the comic itself, and Dave's writings about comics as an artform and a business.<br /><br /> -- Damian T. Lloyd, ykgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-54408130349606681952014-11-30T16:17:52.882-06:002014-11-30T16:17:52.882-06:00See, Dave? I told you several years ago not to be ...See, Dave? I told you several years ago not to be so pessimistic about the impact Judenhass would/will have.<br /><br />I still firmly believe that it won't take until "fifty years after (your) death" for that impact to happen.<br /><br />This is a very good step forward.Jeff Seilerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15543690118315946039noreply@blogger.com