tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post3541350839302733297..comments2024-03-28T21:17:45.398-05:00Comments on A MOMENT OF CEREBUS: Ultimate Spider-Ham!A Moment Of Cerebushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02718525538144698138noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-33298039745580443752014-04-13T22:32:38.297-05:002014-04-13T22:32:38.297-05:00Tom DeFalco goes over the creation of the characte...Tom DeFalco <a href="http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2012/02/03/comic-book-legends-revealed-352/" rel="nofollow">goes over the creation of the character</a> and it had nothing to do with Cerebus.<br /><br />The dates would seem to back him up. Marvel comics at that time were dated three months after they were published, so a November 1983 book would have come out in August (if anyone has some early issues of MARVEL AGE they can check that and get the exact date it came out). I believe CEREBUS was dated the month it came out, so the Wolveroach covers were in September, October and November. Even if the Spider-Ham comic came out in November, there's no way Marvel got a comic created and published in that time frame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-32957952322308669912014-04-07T13:39:25.200-05:002014-04-07T13:39:25.200-05:00My understanding is that the character of Sym was ...My understanding is that the character of Sym was meant to be an homage to Cerebus by Chris Claremont, out of respect for what Dave was doing. Further, my understanding is that SpiderHam was designed by Jim Shooter as a tongue in cheek slap on the wrist towards Dave for doing WolveRoach. Could be wrong, but I thought Shooter somewhere actually admitted that.Jeff Seilerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15543690118315946039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-20247001717473972412014-04-07T10:52:08.845-05:002014-04-07T10:52:08.845-05:00The character of S'ym actually dates back to U...The character of S'ym actually dates back to Uncanny X-Men#160 (which came out the same month as Cerebus#41, back in the days of the Merely Magnificent Moon Roach).Michael Hoskinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11302540308587868138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-59187968286132436072014-04-07T07:30:50.116-05:002014-04-07T07:30:50.116-05:00Back up - IS it obvious that Spider-Ham was a Cere...Back up - IS it obvious that Spider-Ham was a Cerebus swipe? Seemed to me the direct swipe at Cerebus was the grey, animal looking demon Sym that appeared in X-MEN at the time during the INFERNO storyline...<br /><br />--- Geoffrey D. Wessel<br />Geoffrey D. Wesselhttp://gdwessel.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-26189578231621161652014-04-05T10:59:23.784-05:002014-04-05T10:59:23.784-05:00Okay, this is a VERY odd coincidence: Clearly from...Okay, this is a VERY odd coincidence: Clearly from his blog, the artist was NOT aware that SpiderHam WAS meant to be a parody of Cerebus, and that it resulted from the Wolveroach covers/parody. Certainly, he must not have been aware of Shooter's cease and desist letter to Dave. So, getting to the coincidence, in this artwork, I find it AMAZING that the only character NOT drawn as SpiderHam IS the Wolverine character, which seems to be drawn as a wolverine. I mean, how fucking amazing is that? Of course, Dave, if he saw it, probably just chalked it up to God. Still, when I first saw the art, I chuckled to myself that Wolverine is not drawn as a SpiderHam, thinking, "that's a pretty clever move by this guy" and then my eyes popped out when I read his blog. Still shaking my head over that one. . .Jeff Seilerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15543690118315946039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-58977298223312745282014-04-05T02:58:34.252-05:002014-04-05T02:58:34.252-05:00I read somewhere that Marvel first published Spide...I read somewhere that Marvel first published Spider-Ham as a shot across the bows aimed at Dave. They wanted to warn him off after his Wolveroach parody had appeared on three successive Cerebus covers. The message was that Marvel could parody Sim's character too.<br /><br />The timing certainly supports this theory. Dave's three Wolveroach covers are cover-dated September, October and November 1983, and Wikipedia gives Spider-Ham's first appearance as November 1983.Paul Sladehttp://www.planetslade.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-2320015647932579222014-04-04T23:18:20.450-05:002014-04-04T23:18:20.450-05:00Man, that's sweet looking. But it bums me out...Man, that's sweet looking. But it bums me out, since I see by looking 'Ringo up, he had passed away before the end of that year. Dang. Such a great talent. Hope someone got a Cerebus-looking Spider-Ham sketch from him before his passing.Travis Pelkienoreply@blogger.com