tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post4270645531087136029..comments2024-03-28T21:17:45.398-05:00Comments on A MOMENT OF CEREBUS: CEREBUS VOLUME One: Unlikely the HardcoverA Moment Of Cerebushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02718525538144698138noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-13763084771180663282016-07-28T16:51:16.070-05:002016-07-28T16:51:16.070-05:00"Are you okay with me taking x tens of thousa..."Are you okay with me taking x tens of thousands of CEREBUS fan dollars out of CEREBUS fan pockets for a CEREBUS VOLUME ONE Hardcover on Kickstarter at the exact point where -- after seven years -- you finally have all the trade paperbacks back in stock?"<br /><br />As a new fan (I bought the Cerebus vol 1 remaster at release, and somehow managed to get a 2008 printing of Reads when I ordered it earlier this week...but that's another story) this concern is the most relevant to MY buying habits/intentions. It is as unlikely that I would buy a Hardcover of Cerebus/HS/C&S within the next few years as it is likely that I will loan out my copies of these volumes to friends who I believe would be interested in the work. As unwieldy as the phone-books currently are, hardcover editions, IMO, would be so large as to be obstructive. <br /><br />Having purchased an old printing of C&SII as well as the aforementioned 2008 printing of Reads (I guess this ISN'T another story...) it is very likely that I will buy BOTH remasters within the next year. I would much rather have the updated/pristine artwork, and editions that are easier to loan to friends, than an over-sized HC printing of Cerebus the Barbarian.<br /><br />tl;dr - I will buy remastered versions of phone-books I've only just recently bought (C&SII, Jaka, Reads) before I will consider buying a more expensive hardcover edition of earlier volumes (Cerebus, High Society).<br /><br />(deleted and reposted for readability.)<br /><br />- GarrettGMcKellarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07907443806633651640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-89004655917109534932016-07-17T20:11:35.840-05:002016-07-17T20:11:35.840-05:00I think there is a definite market out there for w...I think there is a definite market out there for well produced hardcovers that add a new quality (and perhaps new content) to the original comic. I have the paperbacks of Cerbus, but have recently started re-reading them on my iPad Pro and it's been a revelation. The comics are oversized on the Pro and they look fantastic. If Cerebus could be produced oversized, perhaps coloured, printed on archival paper, cloth-bound and slip-cased I think you would be onto a winner (examples that spring to mind are the Calvin and Hobbes Complete Collection by Andrews McMeel Publishing or The Complete Little Nemo that Taschen produced). As for hardcovers impacting on current paperback sales, I don't think that would be an issue as people new to the comic will still buy the paperback versions. It will be the current fans who own the original comics or paperbacks that will want to invest in the hardcover versions.Uremawife Nowdavenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-29286275464444763602016-07-09T12:17:27.068-05:002016-07-09T12:17:27.068-05:00Ah. As Andy Kaufman's "Foreign Man" ...Ah. As Andy Kaufman's "Foreign Man" character might say had he lived to see the day, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6URaJ_SfWU" rel="nofollow">"TYVM."</a>Tony againnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-12824634021903904972016-07-08T23:02:42.991-05:002016-07-08T23:02:42.991-05:00"Too long; didn't read." It's a ..."Too long; didn't read." It's a shorthand for summing up a really long comment for people that don't have time to read a bunch of paragraphs.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04328607139020066551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-60847032740323299372016-07-08T19:14:04.589-05:002016-07-08T19:14:04.589-05:00So I see "tl;dr" on the Interwebs from t...So I see "tl;dr" on the Interwebs from time to time. What the hell is that about…?Tony Dunlopnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-80045287708667835612016-07-08T11:48:57.538-05:002016-07-08T11:48:57.538-05:00Some fans here seem to get derailed on the collect...Some fans here seem to get derailed on the collector aspect of hardcovers. I like Mr. Gownley's idea for libraries in particular, where inclusion and expansion of a graphic novel section (which used to be a few battered copies of Tintin; maybe Asterix, if you were lucky) is a going concern, to pull in new readers. Not a special run, not next up at the plate. Just next volume 1 printing, get hardcovers made for special marketing to libraries. For new readers, researchers, gadflies, etc. There is a large Cerebus-sized hole in my local public library - they just have High Society.<br /><br />I'm considering donating my old collections as I replace them with the updated printings. Or maybe, if I can ever afford it, just donating a whole run of the re-mastered versions. Forgive my faulty memory: "Lives you can get anywhere, Cerebus just wants all your gold"; here taken to mean "Put up or shut up". A lot of internet yammering isn't getting more boots in the door. <br /><br />Maybe I'm biased, since I'm more of reader than a collector (I'll get them all, but for story completion, not for hermetically sealing). A hardbound copy is going to stand up better than a softcover, though my local library carries a ton of manga, D&Q, and Fantagraphics publications. As does our local bookstore. I'll speak with them about getting a full run of Cerebus; they do have a spinner rack. How have they missed out on this historic artifact? <br /><br />tl;dr More availability. Tougher lasts better for libraries. If they don't do it, do it yourself.<br />Delwyn Klassennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-75203150815817642442016-07-07T14:28:57.130-05:002016-07-07T14:28:57.130-05:00Why stop there? The text parts of "Jaka's...Why stop there? The text parts of "Jaka's Story" and "Reads" should be hand-calligraphed (is that a verb? it is now), illuminated-manuscript style, on vellum by hermit monks.Tony Dunlopnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-18774234449368948202016-07-07T13:35:25.883-05:002016-07-07T13:35:25.883-05:00If you ask me, we should be doing full-size hardco...If you ask me, we should be doing full-size hardcovers. 11x17 on glossy paper, leather bound, gold leaf. You know, the whole nine yards. Ask Dave about it sometime!<br />Sandeep Atwalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09573022107868770512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-64221815192932394642016-07-06T16:56:22.258-05:002016-07-06T16:56:22.258-05:00Never posted here before, but I'm a big fan Ce...Never posted here before, but I'm a big fan Cerebus. That being said, I do not think I would repurchase the series in hardcover unless I'm getting something I don't already have, like better paper or maybe inclusion of original letters pages.<br /><br />Of course, anything that increases page count or quality probably necessitates additional volumes.PossumGreasenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-35496127556912357342016-07-06T12:57:45.603-05:002016-07-06T12:57:45.603-05:00Just keep in mind that, as I said Waaaaay at the b...Just keep in mind that, as I said Waaaaay at the beginning of this, this will ONLY WORK as part of a regular print run of softcovers. Ie: when Volume one is coming up for reprint, you earmark a certain percentage of the print run to be bound as hardcovers. You can't just get a quote for 1,000 stand alone hardcovers. In practical reality it's not a whole new printing; it's part of a printing that you will already have to do anyway.<br /><br />Also, I'm not talking about shipping a bunch of books individually to kickstarter pledges. I have no idea if that would work, as I've never messed around with Kickstarter.<br /><br />And OF COURSE don' do anything that jeopardizes the solvency of AV or your own sanity, but it's DEFINITELY worth having the discussion.<br /><br />Jimmy Gownleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09569275097672894056noreply@blogger.com