tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post4873322107780720337..comments2024-03-28T05:23:01.707-05:00Comments on A MOMENT OF CEREBUS: BREAKING STRANGE DEATH OF ALEX RAYMOND NEWS!!!!!A Moment Of Cerebushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02718525538144698138noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-89630499086686452252020-06-16T13:14:57.099-05:002020-06-16T13:14:57.099-05:00David B. is a barbarian and a coward.
-- Damian
...David B. is a barbarian and a coward.<br /><br /> -- Damian<br />Damian T. Lloyd, Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15423589734839129158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-38104017136706675252020-06-15T09:19:23.329-05:002020-06-15T09:19:23.329-05:00Claude-- Dave's statement in re: the Kickstart...Claude-- Dave's statement in re: the Kickstarter is simply untrue.<br /><br />Sean Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794186823194520775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-68889758332845032342020-06-14T20:23:34.961-05:002020-06-14T20:23:34.961-05:00Okay,
I heard from the fella running the Kickstar...Okay,<br /><br />I heard from the fella running the Kickstarter, and Dave is getting more than five grand. <br /><br />He says Dave knows this, and doesn't understand why Dave said that.<br /><br />I've deleted that part of the post because it wasn't true.<br /><br />Let's all forget that part.<br /><br />MattMouse Skull Entertainmenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05844784361859568863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-29007861648709152182020-06-14T12:52:10.627-05:002020-06-14T12:52:10.627-05:00I myself hate reading from a computer/tablet scree...I myself hate reading from a computer/tablet screen and have absolutely zero interest in having my SDOAR order filled digitally.<br />I *am* open to just writing off my contribution for the SDOAR Fundraising Edition, and paying Carson (who, let's remember, has been working for free) whatever he and his crew think is a fair price for print editions of Vols. 1 and 2 whenever they are ready.<br />Dave is ready to give up, but I'm not. I still want to read his (comics) work; he's still brilliant, if off-the-wall goofy sometimes.Tony Dunlopnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-39583383807460748542020-06-14T08:52:24.609-05:002020-06-14T08:52:24.609-05:00Hi All -
So, I'm not going to weigh in on SDO...<br />Hi All -<br /><br />So, I'm not going to weigh in on SDOAR, Damian drama, or other topics.<br /><br />I'm going to weigh in on income, to wit:<br /><br />On eBay, in the ~ 90 days of March 16th to June 13th, I find 766 completed auctions when doing a "Cerebus" search.<br />Filtering these into three price ranges yields this:<br /><br />1) 333 auctions under $8<br />2) 302 auctions $8 to $35<br />3) 114 auctions over $35<br /><br />Let's assume an average sale of $3.50 for #1 and a $25 average for #2; this yields an income (before fees) of about $8,715.<br /><br />Or, close to $3000 a month; let's say, after fees, $2500.<br /><br />So monetize those Warehouse copies; continue to raid the stock stored at the Offwhite House or wherever they are.<br /><br />Plenty of people are buying individual issues, runs, phone books. Good grief, some poor buyer paid Mile High $50 for a 5th printing of the first phone book.<br /><br />Make up a "CIH? Fire Sale" sticker and slap that on the comic bags, make a 'level up' collectible out of the sale.<br /><br />So yeah, it takes time, effort, all that inconvenient dynamic.<br />And shipping from Canada is expensive - is there any way to get bulk product to the US and sell from here?<br /><br />Just saying, it's a source of income. <br />Not the preferable source, but it's there.<br /><br />Steve<br /><br />Oh yeah, the over $35 eBay tier yielded 114 sales with a rough total of $24,350. Average sale is around $210.<br />Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06324364972414451992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-54646280509734841742020-06-14T08:45:00.916-05:002020-06-14T08:45:00.916-05:00I’m going to break the sabbath to say a few things...I’m going to break the sabbath to say a few things. I think going with the print edition is the way to go. It’ll be more expensive than going digital however with Carson‘s comments it might be the best way to respect at least Carson’s wishes, which is very important. Also as far as IDW is concerned: I think with their recent issues with finances they are no longer in the SDOAR picture. Dave mentioned it in one of the please holds and I don’t think he went into too much detail, that he was moving forward without them. However If I remember correctly Heritage Auctions was the new partner in SDOAR.<br /><br />Fellas I know that you guys are angry with Damian. Perhaps rightfully so. But I think he needs to stay. One of the things about Dave Sim that I respect the most about him is his willingness to hear competing voices. Even those who vehemently disagree with him. I think keeping a fan who might be very unkind to Dave even though he’s said some very nasty things would show to even Dave’s harshest critics that he practices what he, for lack of a better word, preaches: intelligent, serious, discussion. Though sometimes Damian is not so serious with his comments. Also, forgiveness is the Christ-like action to take, I think. Of course, this is Matt’s call. I respect whatever decision he makes. <br /> * * * *<br />Jeff, I think a powwow among the creators and contributors among themselves is a good idea. However, as someone who has recently been introduced to the world of teleconferences because of COVID I must say that ZOOM sucks. The platform is fine. But, the layout I loathe. Maybe things would be different with the SDOAR brain trust, equal footing among men, I think. But as a “ham and egger” myself who is low on the corporate pecking order Video conferencing like ZOOM has not leveled the playing field for me. Also, knowing a little about Dave, who doesn’t really truck with video interviews, ZOOM might be Hell on earth for him as a way of communication.<br /><br />Still, I think the braintrust conferring among themselves is a good course of action to take. Zoom does offer a telephone option. Maybe that’s the way to go. Brian Westhttp://htwww.twitter.com/bigwestnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-39490266432861265382020-06-14T07:14:39.347-05:002020-06-14T07:14:39.347-05:00Was it ever made sufficiency clear to the audience...Was it ever made sufficiency clear to the audience that it was 'go time' for this project and that folks needed to commit, or it would perish?Ibishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09805494114251519448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-85772133906042283552020-06-14T04:15:07.798-05:002020-06-14T04:15:07.798-05:00Dave, I think it was Lenny Cooper (or, was it me?)...Dave, I think it was Lenny Cooper (or, was it me?) who first suggested a bound copy of all of the essays. They were, from time to time, better than the "words and lines". Sim is a remarkably intelligent autodidact. I can always go back to the floppies, but a collected version would be a great addition.<br /><br /><br />Jeffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-8361153979075323332020-06-14T04:02:46.415-05:002020-06-14T04:02:46.415-05:00Damion? Please crawl back under your rock.
"...Damion? Please crawl back under your rock.<br /><br />"god [or, "God",] is done with you," you wrote to and about Dave Sim.<br /><br />How dare you?!? Dave is one of the most devoted believers I know, and I have known many. I don't care if you are an atheist, agnostic, or just plain against religion, or are just trying to stir things up (which, I get, in principle), but this is the worst thing you have ever posted here, at AMOC. Despite your very personal attacks against me.<br /><br />Damion, I still don't understand why Matt hasn't banned you from this site, but, honestly?, you should be prohibited from this kind of ... stuff. Being provocative may be a fun hobby. I get it. But, being intentionally insulting to another person's religious beliefs, in such a manner, is beyond offensive.<br /><br />You are scum. IMHO.<br /><br />I hope that you will enjoy the rest of your next life, not at the bottom of the barrel, but stuck to the side of it (without anyone or anything that cares to help you), about three inches up, seeing all of the fish, wine, beer, aardvarks, Lords, Cabinet Ministers, albinos, or whatever and whoever, rise up and depart, only to slowly (over eons) realize that you will never rise above those three inches.<br /><br />And, then, remain alone, unmourned, and unloved, slowly dying a second time, under an ass-load of potatoes. But, this time, much more slowly, as the fish and the aardvark and the Lord and the albino come and go... Dying on the inside of a barrel, affixed to the inside (left side, because you are the dictionary definition of gauche).<br /><br />I hope that that won't happen, but God knows that you would have earned it.<br /><br />I hope that there is enough time for you to become a better person. I doubt that that will happen, but;<br /><br />"With God, all things are possible."<br /><br />Jeffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-17741652098765557322020-06-14T03:46:56.300-05:002020-06-14T03:46:56.300-05:00Also, just for the sake of argument, let's say...Also, just for the sake of argument, let's say I wanted buy a complete set of CAN#1-8 direct from Dave/AV. How much would that cost me? Or should I go via Diamond and my LCS instead?Paul Sladehttp://www.planetslade.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-2677096776815294302020-06-14T03:37:29.015-05:002020-06-14T03:37:29.015-05:00What (if anything) does all this mean for the cont...What (if anything) does all this mean for the continuing programme of remastering the Cerebus phonebooks?Paul Sladehttp://www.planetslade.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-27995990747976351602020-06-14T03:27:00.304-05:002020-06-14T03:27:00.304-05:00Jeff,
Yes, those essays. I always have to go to f...Jeff,<br /><br />Yes, those essays. I always have to go to floppies (or Margaret’s page) to read and would prefer book. The ideal version to me would include the essays, an edited version of the prose sections of Latter Days and 289/290, and pertinent selections from his letters and posts to old Yahoo chat group. It’s like Dave is making this work purposefully difficult to locate not unlike Cerebus stuffing his dream behind a brick in the wall in 291. I do not understand it. He could do print on-demand like how Rick Veitch is doing his new work. If he actually believes he is right and has discovered the function of life why hide it so obscurely. Given that drawing is no longer an option he can still type (presumably) and edit. I wish he’d just focus on writing something meaningful.<br /><br />On that note the same goes for his absolute disinterest in proper marketing. The store visits to CA is a frankly ridiculous plan. The market is on the YouTubes and the Twitters. He could do all this from his house. He has the support. He just doesn’t want to. And that’s on him. Just like doing new, modern style versions of the “phonebooks”. Had this great opportunity with all the restorations and decides oh I’ll just print them EXACTLY THE SAME as I did 20+ years ago. His palpable disinterest translates into my disinterest as customer. Just wish he’d take responsibility for situation to appropriate degree. Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09943532861071439201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-34289198051526032342020-06-14T02:54:53.732-05:002020-06-14T02:54:53.732-05:00BTW, Dave, do you mean the essays he published in ...BTW, Dave, do you mean the essays he published in the back of the monthly floppies? 'Cause that would be a great book! I've also been pushing for it for years. "Islam, My Islam" is brilliant and takes at least a night to read, in full.<br /><br />"Mama's Boy" is also excellent. Your opinions may vary.Jeffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-1817038274311041242020-06-14T02:47:51.105-05:002020-06-14T02:47:51.105-05:00Yes, Dave (whoever), I agree. Where is IDW, the pr...Yes, Dave (whoever), I agree. Where is IDW, the president of which once said that he was totally on-board? Granted, it's been 10+ years, but ... just sayin'.<br /><br />Also, Dave, I have a treasure trove of letters to and from Sim, cached nicely in a plastic storage tub; 14+ years worth, before his drawing, inking, and writing hand gave out.<br /><br />He is a good, stand-up guy.<br /><br /><br />Jeffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-16933757781395405102020-06-14T01:56:27.586-05:002020-06-14T01:56:27.586-05:00I agree with Carson that crowdfunding a print edit...I agree with Carson that crowdfunding a print edition is best idea. I do not want digital edition and I’ve been hyped on this book for years. Properly marketed I think it’d be big success! <br /><br />Or I mean why not take it to a publisher like IDW or something?<br /><br />What I suppose I would like to see digitally is proper collection of all his prose work. I’ve been banging this drum for years. I want a comprehensive and orderly combination of his thoughts on God combining extracts from letters with essays. I don’t know if it’s possible or if I’m the only one who would buy it. I do not understand his reluctance to embrace his skill as prose writer. It would be nice to at least publish what he’s done already in better format that series of letters. <br /><br />Anyway sorry to hear unfortunate news. 2020 is big mess for everyone it seems.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09943532861071439201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-68618595590773046412020-06-14T01:21:53.247-05:002020-06-14T01:21:53.247-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Birdsonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09829558355806670311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-85580337062111704642020-06-14T01:20:56.931-05:002020-06-14T01:20:56.931-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Birdsonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09829558355806670311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-11761936131743184442020-06-14T01:04:52.473-05:002020-06-14T01:04:52.473-05:00“god is done with you Dave” - That’s a pretty horr...“god is done with you Dave” - That’s a pretty horrible thing to say to anyone and I’m saying this as an atheist. <br />I get that you might not like Dave or share politics/beliefs. I probably have little crossover with the bloke in that department myself, but that kind of statement is just flat out hurtful at a time when it could do him the most damage - Not Cool.Dionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-80282278132533456452020-06-14T00:11:48.622-05:002020-06-14T00:11:48.622-05:00Thanks for that, Jeff.
One more thing: This comme...Thanks for that, Jeff.<br /><br />One more thing: This comment is confusing: "I get whatever I’m going to get on the CEREBUS No.1s (I’m guessing about $5K US of the $49K US will be left after all the expenses are paid and Dagon and I split the rest 50-50)"<br /><br />Why is a project that is grossing $50,000 only going to net $10,000? Why is 80% of the money earned going to expenses and/or fees?<br /><br />This sounds like a disappointing echo of an earlier fundraiser which I understand ended up losing money due to too many add-ons (posters, postcards, etc.), causing great complications in terms of assembling purchased items, and costing a fortune in postage. Jason's comment pretty much echoes my concerns. <br /><br />I hope Dave, Eddie, Carson, and anyone else involved in the production of SDOAR can find time to talk, regroup, and keep the project moving forward. But it's been so long in the birthing, something needs to be released sooner rather than later. The longer time passes, the more expectations will be raised to unreasonable levels. <br /><br />--Claude FlowersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-69315455743434419842020-06-14T00:08:23.651-05:002020-06-14T00:08:23.651-05:00I strongly disagree with Dave's decision to sh...I strongly disagree with Dave's decision to shut down his Patreon---it seems short-sighted to me. One, it is a proven source of income. Two, there is no reason it needs to be tied to the SDOAR project. Three, as others have said, some people are happy to donate just to help Dave out.<br /><br />My understanding of Patreon is that it was inspired by how Renaissance artists would bring their patrons into their studios and show them whatever pieces they have in progress, give them the inside scoop. So why limit Patreon to items relating to SDOAR? Dave is always working on something. Tell the patrons about whatever it is he's doing. Make the Please Hold For Dave Sim interviews exclusively for patrons, or just take the best 9-minute segment and make it patron-only. There's endless other things to post about.<br /><br />Though I understand it's a time-sucker. I certainly have a hard enough time posting to my own Patreon page.Steve Petershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12232445285396967390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-40316644436959497842020-06-13T23:07:17.535-05:002020-06-13T23:07:17.535-05:00Very unfortunate news. While I won't be asking...Very unfortunate news. While I won't be asking for a refund, I do want to support George's idea for a digital only version to be sent to the fundraising edition backers. Trying to proceed with a physical publication seems both financially and logistically dubious.<br /><br />Carson, I appreciate your points. How much of what was to be published in the fundraising edition was your work? I was under the impression that most of the first two volumes were drawn from previously published work from Glamourpuss. Either way, I don't think fulfilling the orders for FE digitally cuts into whatever (clearly limited) interest there is in a physical copy. I would certainly be happy to buy it again.<br /><br />I do have one question - where is IDW in all this?Back when SDOAR was first announced, it was as an upcoming publication from them.<br /><br />I was also taken aback by Dave's suggestion that he will only clear 5K from the Waverly Press Cerebus #1 reprint. If accurate, this is scandalous from a Kickstarter that raised 43K. How much money are all the (to me, irrelevant) 'stretch goals' eating up? If this is what us to be expected from any future Waverly Press campaigns, I will have seriously reconsider my backing.Jason Tnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-22248588181306908692020-06-13T23:00:16.817-05:002020-06-13T23:00:16.817-05:00I agree with everything you said, Claude.I agree with everything you said, Claude.Jeffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-22610408724431474832020-06-13T22:58:30.360-05:002020-06-13T22:58:30.360-05:00No offense, Matt, but why would you buy the digita...No offense, Matt, but why would you buy the digital download when you already have 295 of the floppies and all 16 books? I'd rather just send US$99 to Dave directly.Jeffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-63623936231918232832020-06-13T22:54:39.817-05:002020-06-13T22:54:39.817-05:00It sounds like Dave and the folks who've worke...It sounds like Dave and the folks who've worked on this project still have not spoken, as a group, about where things stand in terms of finances and finished pages, or possible next steps. I hope there are plans to do so - not via fax or email, but over the phone or video (Zoom/Skype/etc.) so there is clear understanding among all parties.<br /><br />Judging the viability of this project on the sales of an intentionally expensive fundraising edition that was barely advertised seems premature. <br /><br />I look forward to seeing the printed book, and wish you all every success. <br /><br />--Claude Flowers<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-13152537653640838302020-06-13T22:30:39.411-05:002020-06-13T22:30:39.411-05:00I can’t comment on the first q, Matt.
But I will ...I can’t comment on the first q, Matt.<br /><br />But I will start saving money to purchase all of Cerebus digitally. I also will start saving up for CAN9 whenever that comes down the pike.Brian Westhttp://www.twitter.com/bigbwestnoreply@blogger.com