tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post5657069559519321461..comments2024-03-28T21:17:45.398-05:00Comments on A MOMENT OF CEREBUS: Cerebus in Hell Contest--the Handbook of Hell?A Moment Of Cerebushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02718525538144698138noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-48280030041644376122017-10-13T22:25:18.708-05:002017-10-13T22:25:18.708-05:00IIRC, the Anything Goes story (which was Harlan El...IIRC, the Anything Goes story (which was Harlan Ellison in a bathrobe, I do believe) was drawn by Dave but the cover was Cerebus by Neal Adams.Travis Pelkiehttp://www.atomicjunkshop.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-62430774027736514102017-10-13T20:31:41.161-05:002017-10-13T20:31:41.161-05:00Was that the story with Harlan Ellison in a bathro...Was that the story with Harlan Ellison in a bathrobe? Or was that one in <i>Epic</i>?Tony againnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-87628429893614763962017-10-12T22:21:52.173-05:002017-10-12T22:21:52.173-05:00Sean R.: Ah, it seems I missed your criterion of t...Sean R.: Ah, it seems I missed your criterion of the challenge; Travis P. above was correct. Was the <i>Anything Goes</i> story canon?<br /><br /> -- Damian<br />Damian T. Lloyd, Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15423589734839129158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-79131214114616905572017-10-12T22:06:22.813-05:002017-10-12T22:06:22.813-05:00Imho the only two really credible non-Dave Cerebi ...Imho the only two really credible non-Dave Cerebi are Gene Day's and the ... cartoonist who's name is scaling me who drew two "tryout " pages reworking two pages from issue two, back a few years ago. Those were fantastic! And of course abWS's Cerebus is great great great, but it's very BWS and not really connected to Dave's rendition, no matter how much of the rendering style Dave stole later :) All IMHO of course!<br /><br />Hm. Now who was that other mysterious cartoonist? I believe he'd done some work for Fanta...Sean Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794186823194520775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-35077893327739074862017-10-12T22:01:08.378-05:002017-10-12T22:01:08.378-05:00Hey Damian! In both those jam pieces Dave drew and...Hey Damian! In both those jam pieces Dave drew and inked the Cerebus figures. :) Sean Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794186823194520775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-42995634794847195062017-10-12T21:18:22.071-05:002017-10-12T21:18:22.071-05:00Is the Will Eisner "Cerebus Jam" story n...Is the Will Eisner "Cerebus Jam" story not canon?<br /><br /> -- Damian<br />Damian T. Lloyd, Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15423589734839129158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-82952985012304833112017-10-12T21:17:19.118-05:002017-10-12T21:17:19.118-05:00Colleen Doran also co-drew a "Cerebus Jam&quo...Colleen Doran also co-drew a "Cerebus Jam" story, albeit not published in <i>Cerebus Jam</i>.<br /><br />One thing that always irked me about the Marvel handbook was that it didn't include the information about who created the characters. If I recall correctly, the DC handbook did do that.<br /><br /> -- Damian<br />Damian T. Lloyd, Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15423589734839129158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-8307103055221450042017-10-12T15:13:31.435-05:002017-10-12T15:13:31.435-05:00Of course! The 'Toddmeister' (Mr McFarlane...Of course! The 'Toddmeister' (Mr McFarlane, that is)...Lee Thackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06674011430761589511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-73389313283996458772017-10-12T14:29:40.111-05:002017-10-12T14:29:40.111-05:00Lee-- Gene Day is #4! Nice work. BTW, IIRC Dave co...Lee-- Gene Day is #4! Nice work. BTW, IIRC Dave considers(ed?) BWS's story to be canon (his prerogative!) I wouldn't consider the Thorne cover since it's a cover (and pin-up in the second issue...) and not a story.<br /><br />The debatable #5 depends on your definition of "canon" and how much of a literalist you are. It's not literally canon as it's not literally Cerebus in the story, but it looks and talks like him, and Dave designated the story as "high iconic" in the Yahoo discussion boards more then a decade back... It's probably, by sales, the second (?) most-popular Cerebus appearance ever... <br /><br />Cerebus Art Hunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13013054161524593464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-83251417209484572692017-10-12T14:13:06.250-05:002017-10-12T14:13:06.250-05:00I'm thinking BWS (not really a 'canon'...I'm thinking BWS (not really a 'canon' Cerebus story though0, Frank Thorne (although it was a cover and not a story), Joe Rubenstein and Gene Day? Oh, I give up!Lee Thackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06674011430761589511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-11595843191722654712017-10-12T06:59:09.914-05:002017-10-12T06:59:09.914-05:00Jeff is 3/5 :) Travis- no and no!Jeff is 3/5 :) Travis- no and no!Sean Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794186823194520775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-64696374130242966162017-10-12T00:51:46.575-05:002017-10-12T00:51:46.575-05:00Well, did Ger actually draw Cerebus the character?...Well, did Ger actually draw Cerebus the character? Which is what I think Sean is saying? <br /><br />Did Eisner draw Cerebus at all in the Jam story?Travis Pelkiehttp://www.atomicjunkshop.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-489003930876065402017-10-11T23:47:05.075-05:002017-10-11T23:47:05.075-05:00Dave Sim, Gerhard S., Joe Rubinstein, Marshall Rod...Dave Sim, Gerhard S., Joe Rubinstein, Marshall Rodgers, Barry Windsor Smith, with help from Deni Loubert and Karen McKiel.<br /><br />My understanding is that Ms. Loubert helped Mr. Rodgers a lot.<br /><br />--JeffAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-10128531972881000952017-10-11T21:57:16.281-05:002017-10-11T21:57:16.281-05:00"Significant" all being relative. Joe R ..."Significant" all being relative. Joe R was one of four artists not named Dave Sim to actually draw Cerebus for a canon Cerebus story. Albeit over dave's roughs. <br /><br />Hm. Five artists?<br /><br />Feel free to name these as well :) more no-prizes await!<br /><br />And yes, Joe R did the entire series with a few minor exceptions! What s feat!Sean Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794186823194520775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-69859361446686935172017-10-11T20:47:12.686-05:002017-10-11T20:47:12.686-05:00Ah, I missed out on beating Tony to the punch!
Se...Ah, I missed out on beating Tony to the punch!<br /><br />Sean, it's obvious you didn't read much DC. It's Jimmy Olsen, and Kamandi. I sneer at your misspellings! ;) jk<br /><br />Well, my pal at the Atomic Junk Shop, John Trumbull, posted a page from Who's Who when Len Wein died (scroll down some here: http://atomicjunkshop.com/in-memory-of-len-wein-1948-2017/ ), and pointed out that the Arkham Asylum entry was a stream-of-consciousness story that Wein came up with, that was later the basis for the Morrison/McKean Arkham Asylum GN. I think it's a decent representation of the series.<br /><br />And this cover of the recent Image series Sex also apes the DC version (more than the Marvel Handbook, I think): https://www.comics.org/issue/1464277/cover/4/<br /><br />But I think they were probably essentially the same.<br />Travis Pelkiehttp://www.atomicjunkshop.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-17296516111739559462017-10-11T20:18:51.406-05:002017-10-11T20:18:51.406-05:00It's it :)It's it :)Sean Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794186823194520775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-26089864400862572792017-10-11T19:52:50.247-05:002017-10-11T19:52:50.247-05:00"Can anyone name the (pretty significant) tie..."Can anyone name the (pretty significant) tie that OHOTMU has to Cerebus? Hint--the answer is on the credits page above!"<br /><br />Not unless it's Joe Rubinstein, credited as "inker/embellisher." Does that mean he inked <i>every drawing</i> in that series? As we say here on the interwebs: wow just wow. Mr. Rubinstein, of course, inked one of the "Swords" back-up stories, but that seems borderline tangential, not "pretty significant," so I'm thinking that's not it.Tony Dunlopnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-37535890611629241992017-10-11T10:07:32.185-05:002017-10-11T10:07:32.185-05:00Just added this to the body of the text:
For ent...Just added this to the body of the text:<br /><br /><br />For entries about individual characters or organizations, i.e. the really text-dense ones, I'd recommend a length of somewhere between 900 and no more than 1,200 words. For the other types of entries, take a look at the samples above for some idea of what we're looking for!Sean Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794186823194520775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-25683084655342241082017-10-11T10:07:14.064-05:002017-10-11T10:07:14.064-05:00Hey Gary!
The only entries already "dibs&quo...Hey Gary!<br /><br />The only entries already "dibs"ed are the Whore of Babylon's Waffle Maker and the "Frozen in Ice" guy. All else is fair game. Though I'd recommend if you take one of the major characters that you a. take a unique tack with it and b. keep in mind other people might be submitting for the same one :)<br /><br />I'll run an update every few weeks to let everyone know how it's going, if this proves to be popular! At the moment no one's banging down the door :)<br /><br />Travis!<br /><br />I never read many DC comics with the exception of a random sampling of George Perez, John Byrne, some classic Swan Superman Jimmy Olson reprint collections and some random Kirby (4TH World, Komandi). So the fault's all mine! Were the Who's Who better/worse/more entertaining than their Marvel counterparts?Sean Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794186823194520775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-90154082281027144192017-10-11T01:49:51.986-05:002017-10-11T01:49:51.986-05:00Holy crap, in the time it took me to go to a diffe...Holy crap, in the time it took me to go to a different window on my computer, I forgot the thing I was going to make a note about for this. ARGH!Travis Pelkiehttp://www.atomicjunkshop.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-31774663471695627302017-10-11T01:47:14.481-05:002017-10-11T01:47:14.481-05:00OOh, yeah, I will be looking at this over the next...OOh, yeah, I will be looking at this over the next week. Sounds like fun. So much fun that I won't call y'all out on your Marvel bias and tacit dissing of the DC Who's Who volumes ;)Travis Pelkiehttp://www.atomicjunkshop.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-47193225205874684802017-10-10T23:46:47.858-05:002017-10-10T23:46:47.858-05:00Is it safe to assume that Dave will be doing a few...Is it safe to assume that Dave will be doing a few entries as well? Are there any citizens of Hell? That would be considered "off limits, Dave's called dibs on" etc.? I'm willing to give it a go. I'll have to look up the online strips for reference though, living in Hell's Backyard means I don't get out often enough to get the print comics. Gary Boyarskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04453934501370784163noreply@blogger.com