tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post6832054654750987683..comments2024-03-28T21:17:45.398-05:00Comments on A MOMENT OF CEREBUS: Going Home--Fun With Photocopiers and the Question of the Original OriginalA Moment Of Cerebushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02718525538144698138noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-78576882583861579782016-08-05T17:52:14.101-05:002016-08-05T17:52:14.101-05:00"or" something. Sleep dep. Hour #17. :)..."or" something. Sleep dep. Hour #17. :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06502294606395720342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-26769829997464641002016-08-05T17:51:08.860-05:002016-08-05T17:51:08.860-05:00Thanks, y'all.
It was Gerhard's idea to...Thanks, y'all. <br /><br />It was Gerhard's idea to go "tone heavy" as I recall. Figuring that tone has to be less time-consuming than cross-hatching. It IS, but it comes with its own set of problems. One of which is that you're spending a lot of time "drawing with an exacto knife". A knife isn't a pencil or a pen or a brush and it becomes debilitating when you go Way Over There. I had a period around 1975 when I decided to do that and did for around three months: every comic story I did was all or mostly tone. My conclusion was: "Drawing with a knife isn't drawing. I don't know what it is, but it isn't drawing". So I stopped. I could do that because I was just doing commercial illustrations and short comics stories. The problem for Gerhard is, once you commit to it on a 350-page story you can't just stop on page 50. It's going to make the story look inconsistent. <br /><br />Same as on FORM & VOID, he said, "Let's do just straight black and white. Like Mike Mignola." i.e. Lose the cross-hatching, lose the tone. No problem. Or, rather, its own set of problems. <br /><br />I was trying to help with the overlay Sean reproduced. "Like Bernie Krigstein's IMPACT covers." Specify light densities and effects that mechanical tones "do" naturally. Honking great sheets. It's still a pain to get that sheet off the backing sheet in one piece and not have it fold up or catch or something. "This is less like drawing than like treating a burn victim of something." Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06502294606395720342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-52519326178972393332016-08-04T21:37:11.460-05:002016-08-04T21:37:11.460-05:00(I envision a Basil Wolverton face to accompany my...(I envision a Basil Wolverton face to accompany my last post)Tony againnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-87542747647329544452016-08-04T21:35:22.391-05:002016-08-04T21:35:22.391-05:00*sproing* *thud*
That's the sound of my eyes ...*sproing* *thud*<br /><br />That's the sound of my eyes popping out and my jaw hitting the floor simultaneously. This stuff is even better than I remembered.Tony Dunlopnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-72241375667977332392016-08-04T14:38:02.077-05:002016-08-04T14:38:02.077-05:00"Going Home" is one of my favorites too ..."Going Home" is one of my favorites too - I've just kept on going back and rereading it over the years. Thanks very much for posting stuff like this, Sean - it's fascinating.Barry Deutschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08796981762797604817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-32226401903833004452016-08-03T18:01:21.337-05:002016-08-03T18:01:21.337-05:00One of my fave phonebooks (I'm a sucker the Ce...One of my fave phonebooks (I'm a sucker the Cerebus - Jaka - F. Stop "triangle" and the dialogue that ensues, plus Gerhard's backgrounds. . .wowza) - thank you Sean for a behind the scenes look at the original art.Margarethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04070671522440242311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-65876513833845889582016-08-03T16:32:58.958-05:002016-08-03T16:32:58.958-05:00Sean,
This is awesome! Thank you so much for shari...Sean,<br />This is awesome! Thank you so much for sharing these.<br /><br />I was just looking at this book last night and stitching the pan shot together into one long panel. It is surprising to see that it was not drawn as one big image and chopped up. <br /><br />The similarity to manga was also really striking to me. Honestly it makes Fall and the River the book I like the least, visually. It was too incongruous for my tastes.Carson Grubaughhttp://hodtech.net/comics.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-75573077876259811142016-08-03T14:16:23.845-05:002016-08-03T14:16:23.845-05:00Hey Eddie,
It's not harder per se, but there&...Hey Eddie,<br /><br />It's not harder per se, but there's waaaaaay more opportunity for error. Teeny tiny dots being sampled by squares always presents danger, even if the squares are themselves teeny tiny. There are about a half dozen things that can cause unintentional moire, and all you can really do is avoid them as best as you can. Worst, they can be done at any step in the process. You can supply perfect files and someone in a prepress department at the printer can check the wrong check-box and you're in moire city. <br /><br />So, yes, more opportunities for error. More opportunities for pulling my hair out. We're running a wet proof (an on-press proof) for this volume right now, though, and I've given them 32 pgs to proof, with the tiniest tone in the book. So hopefully if there turns out to be a problem, we'll catch it before going to press.<br /><br />This, by the way, is what makes me grind my teeth. No joke.Sean Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794186823194520775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-78296111603706699172016-08-03T14:02:56.831-05:002016-08-03T14:02:56.831-05:00Thanks for the posts Sean. I'm really enjoying...Thanks for the posts Sean. I'm really enjoying these. <br /><br />Just wondering (and perhaps it was already answered or obvious): Because of all the intricate tone and moire issues, is this volume going to be much more difficult and challenging to digitally remaster than the other ones? As you mentioned, it's a much more "tone heavy" volume ("This one goes to 11" in the immortal words of Spinal Tap)Eddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11831826350149920878noreply@blogger.com