tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post8782875197307891119..comments2024-03-28T21:17:45.398-05:00Comments on A MOMENT OF CEREBUS: Weekly Update #24: Ultimate Cerebus!A Moment Of Cerebushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02718525538144698138noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-90467329530870416712014-04-09T05:56:04.123-05:002014-04-09T05:56:04.123-05:00Second.
I'd also note that there are TPBs out...Second.<br /><br />I'd also note that there are TPBs out there that collect 5 or 6 issues. Assuming this Ultimate Cerebus thing pans out, it may be smart to do smaller 5 issue TPBs to collect the Ultimate Cerebus books, then maybe include extraneous Cerebus material from the Eclipse shorts, or Cerebus shorts like 'The Challenge', or 'Demon Horn,' from other publications. <br /><br />I do like the Swords idea, though. Just putting that out there.<br /><br />-Wes SmithAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-14091720975370129552014-04-05T18:33:27.444-05:002014-04-05T18:33:27.444-05:00I have seen this post. Welcome.
- Reginald P.I have seen this post. Welcome.<br /><br />- Reginald P.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-59493978924881046712014-04-04T17:05:38.600-05:002014-04-04T17:05:38.600-05:00Dave Sim: I'm not sure if anyone is going to ...Dave Sim: I'm not sure if anyone is going to see this, but I'm glad that people are this enthusiastic. I'm completely flexible on who does them -- i.e. No it doesn't need to be one team (VERY unlikely with the amount of work). I think it will take shape around the people who express an interest -- IF Ted Adams even hears from anyone. <br /><br />The idea of doing SWORDS sized volumes is probably a good one: followed by a CEREBUS collection. <br /><br />Or maybe it would just have been a good idea in 1982.<br /><br />Black and white OR colour. I'd figure that would be up to the individual artist(s). Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06502294606395720342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-31456014247993782492014-04-04T09:40:49.730-05:002014-04-04T09:40:49.730-05:00Part 2, because I typed too much:
Also, I think o...Part 2, because I typed too much:<br /><br />Also, I think one thing that would appeal to the comic nerd in us (those of us interested enough in this project) is to compare and contrast the original with the Ultimate. Which means that the original would need to be back in print if this series is to succeed. (I think, anyway. Ted Adams is highly successful and thinks it would work, so what do I know?)<br /><br />So here's my crazy idea of the week -- what if, in concert with Ultimate Cerebus, IDW reprints the SWORDS of Cerebus volumes? The 4 issue books, with the original intros and extras, seems to be something people want -- I've seen online that people want some sort of context with the phone books and their bare bones presentation apparently works against the book, for some people. With the Swords volumes, you get intros, maybe a new intro from Dave, and maybe just have IDW publish one go with them and then let them go out of print. <br /><br />I know your original impetus for ending the Swords volumes was to not have all those extra books in print, but this could be a limited time deal with IDW and either be published in conjunction with Ultimate, or have the same issues in the same volume (original 1-4 and extra crispy, I mean Ultimate, 1-4 in the same book).<br /><br />I don't know how this might work with your relationship with Diamond, but since IDW is one of the big 5 at the front of the Diamond catalog each month, a reprint of Swords through them would get more eyeballs than the back of the book, and then Diamond might feature the other books in conjunction with that some month.<br /><br />There's my crazy notion. Feel free to dismiss it, but I wanted to throw it out there. Also, I think I used the word "also" a lot in this post. I also will work on that next time. Also.<br />Travis Pelkienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-48568573704262816982014-04-04T09:39:44.691-05:002014-04-04T09:39:44.691-05:00Hopefully I'll get this in before Dave gets to...Hopefully I'll get this in before Dave gets to reading stuff this week. I'll add my pending comments (that I've been sitting on for a bit) on the new update.<br /><br />Anyway, I will buy this Ultimate Cerebus regardless, but let me be the one to point out that unless I'm reading him wrong, Dave is thinking that the 1-25 run will be redone by ONE creative team. Perhaps that's Dave being pessimistic about who would be willing to do such a thing, or hedging his bets in case no one was interested, but I'm reading it as Dave thinking of someone doing Cerebus a la the Bendis/Bagley Ultimate Spider-Man (although perhaps without as much deviation from the original).<br /><br />And that's what would probably be needed -- one team, otherwise it's too much of a deviation from the original. As much as I'd love a Sienkiewicz issue, or a Layman/Guillory issue, or Gillen/McKelvie issue, for example, I think that would present too much of a deviation from what Dave's thinking to help feed interest in the original Cerebus storyline. (However, given the mostly "done-in-one" nature of the original issues, it would probably lend itself well to individual creative teams doing an issue at a time. Also, if Ted Adams got together several creative teams, they could conceivably put together almost all of the issues by, say, the end of this year -- most creative teams could probably fit in a 20+ page story in between regular gigs relatively easily [heh heh])<br /><br />Also, new creative teams WOULD present a BRAND NEW THING for IDW to promote with each issue.<br /><br />I also would rather see more new stuff from certain creators than seeing anyone redoing Cerebus -- a new Stray Toasters type book from Billy the Sink would be awesome, for instance.<br /><br />But it all raises questions -- if high quality creators are the requirement, what high quality people would want to devote 2 plus years of their creative life to redoing old Cerebus stories? Or alternatively, how well would the Ultimate version function as a lead in if it has numerable creative teams on the issues?<br /><br />And how much would Dave have to watch over the proceedings? Does he tell Ted Adams "keep people on the individual story for the individual issue", or does he give him carte blanche? What if someone wants to work in something from a future scene (say, some of the Minds stuff, like Cerebus painting the medallions)? How much might Dave be talked into allowing that, or in just saying, no, the original stuff only? What about the extras, like the story about what happened between 20 and 21, or the Silverspoon pages? <br /><br />And also, if Dave is ok with 20-something year old Dave being "shown up" by the new creative teams (and if even a few of the people who expressed interest actually do it, like Langridge or Sienkiewicz, they will most definitely "show up" young Dave), then why are the moire problems so irksome on the new prints? (I understand, I think -- it's one thing for someone more talented to do better work, even on the same stuff, whereas the moire is affecting the look of the actual art)<br /><br />Travis Pelkienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-55220855936075909572014-04-02T14:40:43.170-05:002014-04-02T14:40:43.170-05:00Thanks for letting me know, Dave. I'll be keep...Thanks for letting me know, Dave. I'll be keeping my eye out for the files.<br /><br />And when I do get them, I'll go ahead and make some printouts for you and send them along. I realize the reasons you want to put together a signature to use as a proof, but I think if you see some printouts that don't exhibit any of these behaviors you might change your mind.<br /><br />(One of the main ways that digital "proofs" vary from the output of the actual press are in the behavior of half-toning. Because of this, if you're using a bit-map (1 bit) process, and you have a high-resolution laser printer for your output, you can make a much closer approximation of the eventual output. It just so happens that I just purchased a laser printer that is capable of working at 1200 dpi, so I'll be able to generate "proofs" that will be very close to what you'd expect from my files.)<br /><br />Ran a few tests this weekend with the file George did send me, and am very pleased with the results so far.Sean Michael Robinsonhttp://livingtheline.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-40153604354305349292014-04-02T11:06:30.231-05:002014-04-02T11:06:30.231-05:00I love the idea of Colleen Doran but I can't i...I love the idea of Colleen Doran but I can't imagine she'd be interested. <br /><br />John Leecool arrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12476766177072703476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-24348442419970251912014-04-02T04:44:04.149-05:002014-04-02T04:44:04.149-05:00Steve Rude!Steve Rude!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-68504791730809405362014-04-02T01:39:28.886-05:002014-04-02T01:39:28.886-05:00This is a FANTASTIC IDEA.
Dream creators (other ...This is a FANTASTIC IDEA. <br /><br />Dream creators (other than Howard Chaykin, Bill Sienkiewicz, Gerhard, Neal Addams, The Pini's, and Sam Keith, because those are awesome suggestions) and made up entirely of people who probably won't either due to personal problems or other commitments (or ideological issues): <br />Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird<br />Stan Sakai <br />Sergio Aragones and Mark Evanier (preferably on the Bran Mac Mufin issue)<br />Jeff Smith (like I said, unlikely)<br />Bob Burden <br />Neil Gaiman and Rick Veitch<br />Colleen Doran<br />Peter Bagge<br />Rob Schrab and Dan Harmon<br />Douglas Paszkiewicz<br />Richard Starkings and Ladronn<br />Richard Corben<br />Mark Bode<br />Mark Martin<br />Steve Murphy and Michael Zulli<br />Trudy Cooper (MUAHAHAHAA)<br />James Stokoe<br />Rick Burchett<br />Jim Lawson and Eric Talbot<br />Arthur Adams<br /><br />And then life would be pretty much perfect. Although I admit it'd be interesting to see more mainstream guys tackle this, it'd be super-awesome if it would stick with indy comic creators.<br /><br />Admittedly it's very frustrating that Steve Gerber and Gene Colan are dead... <br /><br />-Wes SmithAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-66591122137282335402014-03-31T23:54:40.798-05:002014-03-31T23:54:40.798-05:00Johnston mentioned me for some reason. I was told....Johnston mentioned me for some reason. I was told. Yes, I would love to do one of these.jlrobersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10392794912432288906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-15343864278488979952014-03-31T23:53:39.146-05:002014-03-31T23:53:39.146-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.jlrobersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10392794912432288906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-20178123364728072152014-03-31T12:16:48.762-05:002014-03-31T12:16:48.762-05:00I would seriously love to see this happen.I would seriously love to see this happen.Keithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04045561259667835648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-26522074425166289442014-03-31T11:37:15.928-05:002014-03-31T11:37:15.928-05:00How about (OK, dreaming here) Neal Adams for the t...How about (OK, dreaming here) Neal Adams for the three Beguiling issues? I wouldn't mind seeing Howard Chaykin's take, either...Tony Dunlopnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-45358897961119019622014-03-31T09:24:00.307-05:002014-03-31T09:24:00.307-05:00Oh my God, Langridge would KICK ASS ALL OVER THIS....Oh my God, Langridge would KICK ASS ALL OVER THIS.Dave Koppermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09292071349686573917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-87852320862298305832014-03-31T09:09:57.418-05:002014-03-31T09:09:57.418-05:00What a neat idea! It would be fun to get creators ...What a neat idea! It would be fun to get creators that worked on Conan-style books as well (Cary Nord?). And I'd be all over a Bill Sienkiewicz mind games issue -- perhaps with a guest appearance by Moon Roach.<br /><br />Instead of a strict retelling the first 12 issues, it might make more sense to let other creators tell Cerebus the Barbarian stories that complement the first volume, serving as an alternative lead-in to High Society.adampaszhttp://www.pasz.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-581580174112973112014-03-31T04:47:04.480-05:002014-03-31T04:47:04.480-05:00Did anyone mention Gerhard?Did anyone mention Gerhard?Michael Ragielnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-2328722439751928862014-03-30T22:22:05.040-05:002014-03-30T22:22:05.040-05:00Um. I mean, I'd totally buy it, however it co...Um. I mean, I'd totally buy it, however it comes out and whoever is the artist, but while there's some justification for redrawing issues 1-12, where Dave was in the process of finding his style and technique, it's all there by 'Black Magicking'. <br /><br />But even given that the drawing is less strong on the first dozen issues, the fundamental visual storytelling and pacing is already down pat, and I have a hard time picturing another artist improving on that, even if their chops are dazzling.<br /><br />Although... color?Dave Koppermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09292071349686573917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-47824816530672697132014-03-30T19:30:48.500-05:002014-03-30T19:30:48.500-05:00Ultimate Cerebus sounds awesome! I admit when I ju...Ultimate Cerebus sounds awesome! I admit when I just saw the words "Ultimate Cerebus" I thought it would be an announcement of IDW publishing the trades, but this is very surprising. My dream pick would be Sam Kieth but just the idea of this venture is so exciting.<br /><br />-Ryan Royce WilliamsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-29652479935444781402014-03-30T17:29:15.900-05:002014-03-30T17:29:15.900-05:00Maybe Frank Cho for the two Red Sophia issues? He&...Maybe Frank Cho for the two Red Sophia issues? He's good with the ridiculously over-endowed and under-clothed girls, and even he might be able to handle that schedule.<br /><br /> -- Damian T. Lloyd, pvt<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-59714777530397355022014-03-30T12:47:22.899-05:002014-03-30T12:47:22.899-05:00Hmmm ... Wendi Pini would be cool. Joe Staton. Joh...Hmmm ... Wendi Pini would be cool. Joe Staton. John Byrne. Artists from the era those issues came out ...darylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06890145829605881174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-53778501182735259542014-03-30T11:04:40.933-05:002014-03-30T11:04:40.933-05:00How about Barry Windsor-Smith doing Dave Sim doing...How about Barry Windsor-Smith doing Dave Sim doing Barry Windsor-Smith?Paul Sladehttp://www.planetslade.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-38904696455085442602014-03-29T23:19:07.345-05:002014-03-29T23:19:07.345-05:00Hunh. Ultimate Cerebus. I'D buy it.Hunh. Ultimate Cerebus. I'D buy it.Dominick Gracenoreply@blogger.com