tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post2266707722312129910..comments2024-03-27T20:08:08.593-05:00Comments on A MOMENT OF CEREBUS: The Future of Strange Death of Alex Raymond: A ConversationA Moment Of Cerebushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02718525538144698138noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-67769793032073527122015-06-19T15:59:58.278-05:002015-06-19T15:59:58.278-05:00I didn't read the collections of Barry Windsor...I didn't read the collections of Barry Windsor-Smith's "Young Gods," but didn't they end as a collection of thumbnails and such instead of finished pages?<br /><br />I submit that Dave take the same approach after plotting/writing the rest of the story. First there are the pages already finished. Then there are whatever sketches/thumbnails he's already produced. If possible, he can attempt to produce more. [I also haven't been following the video updates, so I have no idea where his hand is at now.] I wouldn't rule out copying-and-pasting panels from the works he's commenting on, preferably with new word balloons/captions. Try to get by with that as long as he can hold out, retreat to thumbnails when need be, and then finish the rest of the book as a script, although probably more readable than an actual comic book script, because this wouldn't be intended for an artist but for an audience.<br /><br />Although the original intent was to give Dave as much chance to pursue photorealism as he wanted, if it's not possible, it's not possible, so why not lean into that with regards to the book about photorealism? If Neal Adams [for instance] or Gerhard are as close to realism as the comic book medium can get, then try going the opposite way to prove that point?ChrisWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18322950015727553689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-62642833680127848802015-06-19T15:59:57.249-05:002015-06-19T15:59:57.249-05:00I didn't read the collections of Barry Windsor...I didn't read the collections of Barry Windsor-Smith's "Young Gods," but didn't they end as a collection of thumbnails and such instead of finished pages?<br /><br />I submit that Dave take the same approach after plotting/writing the rest of the story. First there are the pages already finished. Then there are whatever sketches/thumbnails he's already produced. If possible, he can attempt to produce more. [I also haven't been following the video updates, so I have no idea where his hand is at now.] I wouldn't rule out copying-and-pasting panels from the works he's commenting on, preferably with new word balloons/captions. Try to get by with that as long as he can hold out, retreat to thumbnails when need be, and then finish the rest of the book as a script, although probably more readable than an actual comic book script, because this wouldn't be intended for an artist but for an audience.<br /><br />Although the original intent was to give Dave as much chance to pursue photorealism as he wanted, if it's not possible, it's not possible, so why not lean into that with regards to the book about photorealism? If Neal Adams [for instance] or Gerhard are as close to realism as the comic book medium can get, then try going the opposite way to prove that point?ChrisWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18322950015727553689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-55471270200182455582015-06-08T01:33:00.587-05:002015-06-08T01:33:00.587-05:00Well, Paul, it's obviously not the best situat...Well, Paul, it's obviously not the best situation to be in, but lemons and lemonade, if you know what I mean. <br /><br />I'd say probably the tough part for Dave would be that, as we see from the notebooks, he kind of plotted/wrote/penciled/thumbnailed all at once, so cutting out the drawing part might be tough. <br /><br />I hope it's just a temporary pause, but that Dave can do what he can without drawing, and once the wrist is back in action, he can go back to where he was pretty quickly.Travis Pelkienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-67395027392110876932015-06-07T04:10:40.396-05:002015-06-07T04:10:40.396-05:00A very salient point, Travis. Used to be, Dave cou...A very salient point, Travis. Used to be, Dave could plot, write, draw, ink and publish a monthly comic in about 20 days. He and I are only about six years apart in age and, let me tell ya, if I can plot how I'm gonna spend my day, let alone the other stuff, it's a good day.<br /><br />SOOOO, if Dave, being six years older than me, but in much better shape, is anywhere near the slow-down that I've experienced (albeit, me with the bad hip), then I think that you're right, Travis.<br /><br />This little break from "full speed ahead" probably is really, REALLY, good for Dave. And, don't forget, folks, that Dave (since his operation) says he's "feeling better than I have since I was around 11 years old."<br /><br />So, Dave, I know you miss drawing. I know you are concerned, probably rightly so, about maybe having to get your drawing chops back up to snuff when you're able to. And I know you, being ever the consummate, professional businessman,hate missing a deadline on a contract (despite what Ted Adams has said).<br /><br />But, think of all that great time you have for getting EVERYTHING in order.<br /><br />I look forward to seeing the results. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17904496116020946043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-72784429576482224882015-06-06T06:30:27.757-05:002015-06-06T06:30:27.757-05:00To quote Edmund Blackadder: "Well, if so, it&...To quote Edmund Blackadder: "Well, if so, it's a very GOOD disguise".Paul Sladehttp://www.planetslade.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-89748233966819838982015-06-06T03:28:40.417-05:002015-06-06T03:28:40.417-05:00Well, at this point, having the hand out of commis...Well, at this point, having the hand out of commission is possibly a blessing in disguise, in that Dave can road map the book out, figure out the story end of things, maybe rough out the general layout of the book, and thereby figure out about how long the entire project should be. If he can figure out that the whole thing should be x number of pages, then he can let IDW have a general idea, and they can rough out about how many volumes the series should be. At that point, maybe the hand is healed up enough to get back into the more rigorous drawing aspects of the book and then work towards the conclusion of the entirety.Travis Pelkienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-11990485948448802922015-06-06T02:33:45.211-05:002015-06-06T02:33:45.211-05:00Well, *my* first take on reading all of this trans...Well, *my* first take on reading all of this transcribed dialogue is "Dave *is* still alive, right?" Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17904496116020946043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-36442599235745837952015-06-05T22:49:06.706-05:002015-06-05T22:49:06.706-05:00I feel like what makes Dave rare is that he is goo...I feel like what makes Dave rare is that he is good with the four main aspects of a comic - writing, lettering, panel design, & of course the art. I think given the current state of his hand & his commonly mentioned belief he can't move as good & fast as he once did, that perhaps he is being given an opportunity to collaborate in a way where he could teach young artists to function at a higher level. Sim's writing & panel design with a guiding hand towards lettering could make a lot of people's art look pretty amazing & I don't think it would deter anyone from reading the work, in fact I could see it creating a buzz.Brian John Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05087664108117652089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-45821693305265395222015-06-05T12:35:27.381-05:002015-06-05T12:35:27.381-05:00What if… after Dave completely road maps the story...What if… after Dave completely road maps the story he then creates loose thumbnails (this should be easier on the hand) indicating his vision of the visual flow of the story and then solicits other artists to create a page (or two, or three, or whatever) from the thumbnail for the book. So it would then become a SDOAR Jam. The payment to each of the artist would be a concern but maybe the pages could be auctioned off and the proceeds go to the artist, or do a Kickstarter campaign for the completion of the book. I'm not a finance guy. Call me old school but a Bill Sienkiewicz, Neil Adams, Dave Gibbons, Frank Miller, etc., etc., page (or pages) would be cool, or go after the younger talent out there who might want to get involved.<br /><br />Another thought would be to create a novelization of the remaining chapters with single page plates that could aid in carrying the narrative forward. So the first portion of the book would be graphic and the rest would be a novel. Very similar to Jaka's Story. Dave could simply dictate the story and have someone else do the typing (using both left AND right hands — no offence).<br /><br />DeanDean Reeveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15554594239085305304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-38119812073006765852015-06-05T12:16:39.298-05:002015-06-05T12:16:39.298-05:00I would sure buy Volume(s) 1 - N.I would sure buy Volume(s) 1 - N.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com