tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post3867187272927480196..comments2024-03-28T21:17:45.398-05:00Comments on A MOMENT OF CEREBUS: The Trial of Dave SimA Moment Of Cerebushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02718525538144698138noreply@blogger.comBlogger96125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-60010244305112106762023-09-29T05:45:45.518-05:002023-09-29T05:45:45.518-05:00Amazing that Judith writes just like Dave SimAmazing that Judith writes just like Dave SimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-86559767916431317252023-01-29T22:02:05.429-06:002023-01-29T22:02:05.429-06:00TL,DR: There was no grooming nor molestation, and ...<br /><br />TL,DR: There was no grooming nor molestation, and the lot of you using my adolescent relationships as ammunition are more exploitative than Dave ever was!<br /><br /><br />DEAR COMMENTARIAT:<br /><br />As the former adolescent female whose name and past relationships are being used as a cudgel by the prurient and presumptuous, I can correct the previous comments and confirm I was born January 8, 1970. I met Dave Sim once in the earliest year of which he is now accused of some form of immoral predation; we did not become close until somewhat later and at NO POINT did he behave in any way objectionably. Unless talking to an adolescent locked in a boarding school dorm a thousand miles away and once visiting to spend several hours in company are a crime, Mr. Sim has nothing to reproach himself for upon my account. In fact I remain grateful to him for his time and attention, which was unmarred by the scent of predatory interest, and I know what it looked and smelled at felt like; I'd been I don't know if he would "take No for an answer" because he never put me in the uncomfortable position of having to say either yes or no. Whether or not he found underage me attractive or not is beside the point--- he treated me with perfect courtesy as though I had no sexual aspect whatsoever. Indeed he refused to discuss the matter except to say it was something we might address someday, once I was an adult; and if he found it difficult, he never burdened me with that knowledge.<br /><br />It has been quite traumatic to find out a bunch of total strangers have concocted a moral crime out of this personal series of events, violating my privacy as well as twisting the actual past to conjure up an indictment. <br /> It is based on little more than the age I was on FIRST MEETING Dave Sim. The subsequent course of events is nobody else's business-- it should be sufficient to say that I trusted him and he never failed to be worthy of that trust. I could have slept in the same room, even shared a bed, without fear of inappropriate advances, because finding someone attractive does not preclude care for their well being, or even ordinary prudence wishing to avoid bad behavior.<br /><br />Whatever he may now see fit to condemn in his past self from the perspective of his religious conversion, he did nothing sleazy or even sleaze-adjacent. Due to his disapproval (stated circa 2004) of married women corresponding with males other than their husband, we do not speak to one another. Otherwise I might have found out about this revolting persecution somewhat earlier, and spoken up to call out those who, it is clear, care nothing for either the truth or the alleged "victim" when they wish to hang a dog, and come across a promising bad name to hang upon him.<br /><br />Did it never occur to ANY of the self appointed guardians of my "innocence" that you were publicly sticking your Grundy noses into the personal and sexual history of an actual person whose views COULD BE ASCERTAINED? Or did you make up some kind of excuse for why it was somehow "better for me" to have it raked over by people eager to presume a certain story, the better to wield against someone you dislike? You may all, with celerity, go f**k yourselves. Dave is worth a hundred petty scandalmongers, even if he does not always seem to realize that fact.<br /><br />With freezing contempt,<br /><br />Judith Bradford<br />austin<br /><br />PS. It's somewhat sad Dave seems to attribute so much more of my interest to supposed particular devotion to the comic. I worked in a comic shop and liked a lot of them, and met a lot of artists et cetera there and at local conventions-- but didn't want to call them to talk :) It was actually the person, and appreciation for his qualities, that was significant to me.MrsChaos Manorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09133347357749122010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-59713371955380486702021-12-26T15:57:01.984-06:002021-12-26T15:57:01.984-06:00One tiny correction which I don't think anyone...One tiny correction which I don't think anyone else has commented on: Dave Sim's confession makes it clear that the girl's 21st birthday was on January 8 1992, not 1991 (a letter from her in late 1991 led to a meeting for their having sex prior to this 21st birthday early the following year); so she was born in 1971, not 1970.ScottFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15538514116957590262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-22679704738387229132021-12-26T15:46:59.736-06:002021-12-26T15:46:59.736-06:00Thanks for all this updating. As a devoted reader ...Thanks for all this updating. As a devoted reader of the entire story arc, sharing the admiration and puzzlement of many readers, I want to suggest that it's hard to imagine that anyone could be seriously shocked by this news. I agree with many that Dave Sim has a complex mix of genius and paranoid delusion, with early success perhaps contributing to a self-aggrandizing martyr complex abetted by weird religious ideas and perhaps some mind-altering drugs. So learning that before his complete divorce from womankind he had a sexual relationship with an underaged girl fits into this perfectly. Of course, adolescent girls are physically attractive, but surely a particular attraction for Dave Sim (and doubtless, many other groomers to one degree to another) is that the girl didn't yet have her own strong personality to assert--he admits that she was a comic book sycophant and a Cerebus devotee in particular, worshipping the ground he walked on. Vague details of how the relationship fell apart aside, this couldn't be expected to last as she grew into her own personality, as Dave Sim doesn't seem to have room in his personal life for many people other than Dave Sim, and mature women in particular. Then he got religion and became convinced that contact with women of any age was simply sapping the male strength of his precious bodily essence, and laid off them, perhaps keeping the memory of the best and last one. This may shed a lot of light on the later appearances of Jaka in the story arc, and Cerebus' (both the character, and the epic story's) ultimate disillusionment with and casting aside of her. So we have art and life reciprocally imitating each other, just as Dave Sim so marvelously and self-consciousness portrayed over and over again in his work. It also makes me think of the Woody Allen/Konigsberg appearances in a new light as well. Of course, an artist's self-consciousness of his flaws doesn't absolve him thereof, and I'm sure Sim knows this too. Hard to say more, except that now we all know just a little bit of "the rest of the story."ScottFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15538514116957590262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-57741198011207710692021-04-15T22:46:32.885-05:002021-04-15T22:46:32.885-05:00Cerebus IS more popular than Elfquest, at least in...Cerebus IS more popular than Elfquest, at least in terms of <a href="https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=cerebus,elfquest" rel="nofollow">Google Searches over time: </a>Rob Snellhttps://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=cerebus,elfquestnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-19246944279824326022020-01-08T20:57:10.889-06:002020-01-08T20:57:10.889-06:00Cerebus TV,
Okay, I'll bit. What Pat Boyette ...Cerebus TV,<br /><br />Okay, I'll bit. What Pat Boyette angle?<br /><br />Matt DowMouse Skull Entertainmenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05844784361859568863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-44316912879332257132020-01-08T05:17:12.106-06:002020-01-08T05:17:12.106-06:00I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THE PAT BOYETTE ANGLE.I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THE PAT BOYETTE ANGLE.CerebusTVhttp://cerebustv.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-74992462068715818712019-05-14T05:01:02.848-05:002019-05-14T05:01:02.848-05:00 Fortunately very few comics creators have to kill... Fortunately very few comics creators have to kill people to do their job. Eolake Stobblehousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07126147415891586345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-25823086588114715562019-05-14T03:07:24.216-05:002019-05-14T03:07:24.216-05:00It's great when A is A and everyone can see it...It's great when A is A and everyone can see it.<br />It's great that a single human being was able<br />to make such huge waves without killing anybody.<br /><br />Anyone can talk based on projected moral grounds. <br />Very few will be able to surpass <br />Dave Sim's body of work and influence.<br />For better or worse.<br /><br />God bless comics.<br />And facts.-[H]https://www.blogger.com/profile/13203151035301172476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-75269747378451345832019-03-11T18:36:01.119-05:002019-03-11T18:36:01.119-05:00Hmm, I can’t seem to be able to edit my comment. T...Hmm, I can’t seem to be able to edit my comment. That should be: <br /><br />“... dismisses a whole profession (acting) as Not Being Art...”Eolake Stobblehousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07126147415891586345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-40051558766682155352019-03-11T18:25:25.076-05:002019-03-11T18:25:25.076-05:00Damian may have a point. Just for one thing, I don...Damian may have a point. Just for one thing, I don’t see all that many teen girls looking for mature men, unless it’s for temporary fun and the men have the money. People with hot young bodies generally want partners with hot young bodies. <br /><br />Dave has some rigid views. For example, he airily dismisses a whole profession, acting as Not Being Art and not being worthy of note. While of course cartooning is up there with Michelangelo. (Not that I’d argue that it can’t be.) I think he even said at one point that music is not interesting or important. Which is just like slicing whole continents of human expression off the map just because you lost interest. Eolake Stobblehousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07126147415891586345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-29366888296538387012019-03-11T14:47:25.481-05:002019-03-11T14:47:25.481-05:00Of course Ethan Van Sciver, being a Trump supporte...Of course Ethan Van Sciver, being a Trump supporter, must be a shameless hypocrite, outraged at things democrats do, then ignoring much worse things that Trump does every day. Likewise he constantly refers to liberals as pedophiles, but his first reaction to the story about Sim is to excuse it with a comparison to Elvis. It’s nice to see that a Trump supporter can actually be shamed into changing direction on something, even though I’m not certain Sim’s behavior should brand him forever as a pedophile. <br /><br />I wonder what it would take for Sim to get out of the ridiculous corner into which he has painted himself with his silly, rigid philosophical ideas. I think if he raised a girl from a baby, he may comprehend the awe inspiring perfection of a human being and abandon his absurd theories and bigotry specifically against women. Maybe he’d say, “I was wrong, I understand that now!” Then maybe he could find a woman against whom he wouldn’t feel compelled to constantly pit himself. Maybe he could admit that a 50 year old like Sandra Bullock is actually sexy as hell. Or maybe he would just indoctrinate any kid he raised with his own lunacy. Or maybe he would just say that any girl he raised is the exception, and all his silly ideas still stand. Either way, I think he is determined to never ever admit he was wrong about anything. So he built his own miserable little prison.Andrew millernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-61639383308404801952019-03-11T13:39:57.864-05:002019-03-11T13:39:57.864-05:00Dave has always regarded himself as the measure of...Dave has always regarded himself as the measure of all things. Dave is interested in 17-year-old girls, so the natural state of men is to be interested in 17-year-old girls, and being interested in other girls is feigned or settling or otherwise necessarily aberrant. Dave is interested in sports, so the natural state of men is to be interested in sports. Dave isn't into cars, so it's fine for men not to be into cars, never mind that there's a pre-existing stereotype to the contrary. Dave is interested in women's fashion, so he redefines that as a fine and manly interest.<br /><br /> -- Damian<br />Damian T. Lloyd, Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15423589734839129158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-20050967141839963922019-03-11T11:34:13.372-05:002019-03-11T11:34:13.372-05:00One of the top 10 most pathetic and repugnant thin...One of the top 10 most pathetic and repugnant things that Sim has ever done is to bat his eyelashes and court a MAGA douchebag like Ethan Van Sciver, ostensibly because he assumed that obnoxious jerks must be of a like mind. And then it turns out that Sim’s fellow conservative big mouths are the ones to take a big crap on him after making a big show of revering him.Andrew millernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-75093612666329325852019-03-11T10:48:39.510-05:002019-03-11T10:48:39.510-05:00I recently posted on the Cerebus Facebook page the...I recently posted on the Cerebus Facebook page the question, something like, “When did you first realize that there was something seriously repugnant about Dave Sim’s views?” For me it was “*To those 17 and 18 year old boys, let me reassure you that your time will come. Don’t settle for “what you can get” in your teens and 20s and you,lol pretty much have your pick of USDA prime cut in your 30s and 40s. None of whom (the part you won’t want to hear) is worth the paper she’s printed on.” And “It is certainly unfair that when a girl hits her peak of physical attractiveness at the age of 17 or 18, her interests lie (almost without exception) in the direction of men much, much older than she is. Or at least it SEEMS unfair to the 17 and 18 year old boys who desire her (usually with a greater sincerity than those men who are much, much older than she is).* It is equally unfair that when a man hits his peak of attractiveness much, much later, his interest- his GENUINE interest, his IRREFUTABLE interest- remains with the 17 and 18 year olds.** it continues on at some length with many other equally shamelessly repugnant, presumptuous assertions.<br /><br />Not having always read Cerebus chronologically, I guess I had been out of the loop concerning the direction his rants in essays and letter responses had been taking. So my thoughts as I read these things was, “Is being ironic? Is he, for some purpose of demonstration pretending to be a completely shallow, adolescent-minded, narcissistic douchebag?” It turns out he wasn’t pretending.<br /><br />So Sim thinks that older men are so attractive to the only “women” he considers worth pursuing. But what happens when an older man becomes a truly old, old man who cannot any longer capture the interest of these teenagers who he considers to be at the peak of female attractiveness? Well, apparently, the old, old man becomes a bitter, celibate hermit.<br /><br />A few absurdly obvious points - #1 The current age of the girl in the story is completely irrelevant.<br />#2 The fact that Sim broadcast his interest in the teenager and the details of his relationship with her as a 21 year old is completely irrelevant.<br /><br />Recently, Rolling Stone published a retrospective issue about Led Zeppelin. It turns out that Jimmy Page dated a girl who was 14 or 15 or something. And he didn’t wait until she was 21. I still love Led Zep. But let’s face it...ignoring requires some serious denial or some hypocritical and convoluted rationalizations.<br /><br />There was a time when human beings were not necessarily expected to live far past their mid 20s, and if they wanted to have children and raise them, they needed to marry much earlier than we consider appropriate today. But that time is not now, here in America.<br /><br />Personally, I find it endlessly fascinating to delve into the layers of Sim’s ridiculous views, each one more hilariously indefensible and puzzling than the last. All pompously, exhaustively expounded upon as though he were imparting profound wisdom. Years ago, I used to like to talk in what we called “fake intellectual talk”, which was using big words and fanciful sentence structure to say absolutely nothing. Sim has been doing the same thing for years, but rather than saying nothing, he’s been using big words and fanciful sentence structure to state these shallow, adolescent views, like “I had sex with this really hot chick! Here’s some pictures to prove I really did!”<br /><br />Andrew millernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-63464949592651157272019-02-21T18:23:42.186-06:002019-02-21T18:23:42.186-06:00 Damian, I think you are taking your schadenfreude... Damian, I think you are taking your schadenfreude too far. Eolake Stobblehousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07126147415891586345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-66690079515945891392019-02-21T11:45:50.985-06:002019-02-21T11:45:50.985-06:00Reading his Sunday posts demonstrates that he didn...Reading his Sunday posts demonstrates that he didn't even throw away his life for the Bible, but rather for his own schizophrenia, and is using the Bible as a crutch to prop up what remains of his mind -- a crutch he is enthusiastically dismantling in favour of further progress up his own asshole. It's probably sad, but he's not really hurting anyone, and it's pretty funny to watch.<br /><br /> -- Damian<br />Damian T. Lloyd, Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15423589734839129158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-62591566717595737192019-02-21T10:11:53.169-06:002019-02-21T10:11:53.169-06:00Such a shame to see Dave throw everything away for...Such a shame to see Dave throw everything away for The Bible. What a waste.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-88190247109875852592019-01-12T16:08:54.282-06:002019-01-12T16:08:54.282-06:00Good point on the red carpet, Tony.Good point on the red carpet, Tony.Slumbering Agarthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11926670297818515972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-78338782118485874732019-01-12T12:50:51.031-06:002019-01-12T12:50:51.031-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Birdsonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09829558355806670311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-46034689059380207212019-01-12T10:43:07.624-06:002019-01-12T10:43:07.624-06:00And Glen,
Dave's only got the one hand. If he...And Glen,<br /><br />Dave's only got the one hand. If he goes for surgery and it works, great. If he goes and it doesn't, then he loses whatever abilities he currently has.<br /><br />MattMouse Skull Entertainmenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05844784361859568863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-12857732746785457432019-01-12T10:29:04.046-06:002019-01-12T10:29:04.046-06:00Glen-- Dave has seen MANY doctors and specialists ...Glen-- Dave has seen MANY doctors and specialists for his wrist. MRIs, physical therapy etc. No specific diagnosis, only some pain relief from the physical therapy exercises (which he continues to do). Sean Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794186823194520775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-49865444286491543822019-01-12T09:40:02.470-06:002019-01-12T09:40:02.470-06:00? Forgetting the little people is the WHOLE POINT ...? Forgetting the little people is the WHOLE POINT of hitting the red carpet....Tony Dunlopnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-63236942390785482932019-01-12T07:09:35.738-06:002019-01-12T07:09:35.738-06:00Thanks for the link, Al.
From the article:
&quo...Thanks for the link, Al. <br /><br />From the article: <br />"How it wasn’t consummated when she was twenty-one."<br />I think Rich meant to say "...wasn't consummated UNTIL she was twenty-one".<br /><br />Matt, don't forget us little people when you hit the red carpet! Slumbering Agarthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11926670297818515972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-15650462971905899832019-01-12T05:39:06.382-06:002019-01-12T05:39:06.382-06:00The Bleeding Cool article states ".....a deb...The Bleeding Cool article states ".....a debilitating illness has left Sim unable to draw for some years."<br /><br />????<br /><br /><br />He damaged his wrist writing & drawing Cerebus & refuses to go the doctors for treatment.Glenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15375459484639179890noreply@blogger.com