tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post6136767235803941558..comments2024-03-28T05:23:01.707-05:00Comments on A MOMENT OF CEREBUS: Sim's LSD BreakthroughA Moment Of Cerebushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02718525538144698138noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-38294091791162053802016-03-18T23:35:54.204-05:002016-03-18T23:35:54.204-05:00I'm glad the acid source has been cleared up. ...I'm glad the acid source has been cleared up. my best guess was a bob burden field trip. biggest acid head/friend of mine in college has been practicing medicine for 30+ years, so you can take the detrimental effect stories w a grain of salt (so to speak). Sam Hughesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-47324805151515602352016-03-18T18:06:30.275-05:002016-03-18T18:06:30.275-05:00Alex—You're quite right that drugs affect peop...Alex—You're quite right that drugs affect people differently, of course. It may indeed be that Dave already had some ideas in the backlog, as it were, and the LSD was just a conduit to help make them manifest. On the other hand, of course, you can take someone like Syd Barrett, who became an entirely different person after his many trips (a lot of which were unknown—people around him dosing his tea without him knowing, apparently)...it may be that Dave falls somewhere in between, perhaps closer to one end of the extreme or other. No way to really know, but fun to think about. <br /><br />Travis—That's an interesting insight. Could it be that Dave was thinking of what age HE would be in 2004, thinking that it would be a good stopping point, rather than whether having a nice round number like 300 was more important?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06201770039225794681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-56949728513579420982016-03-09T11:01:16.834-06:002016-03-09T11:01:16.834-06:00cerebusarthunt at gmail :)cerebusarthunt at gmail :)Sean Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794186823194520775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-28059662387175900332016-03-09T10:55:02.634-06:002016-03-09T10:55:02.634-06:00Ooh. Remind us again of your email, Sean. I have...Ooh. Remind us again of your email, Sean. I have a few malformed thoughts on the topic.Travis Pelkienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-53534301689605814522016-03-09T09:22:11.648-06:002016-03-09T09:22:11.648-06:00I'd be curious to hear from other Dave Sim/Zap...I'd be curious to hear from other Dave Sim/Zappa fans on any perceived overlap between the two. Working on a piece of writing that links the two and would love to hear thoughts about it from others. Sean Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794186823194520775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-5421589551086224992016-03-09T08:56:54.533-06:002016-03-09T08:56:54.533-06:00I've wondered just how much influence the LSD ...I've wondered just how much influence the LSD had on Dave's thinking. Everyone has different experiences on the drug, of course. My own experience-- and I tripped dozens of times, back in the day-- was never as intense as what he's described. <br /><br />Back in 1982, in the early days of the online environment, I dropped acid one night before logging on. I found myself in an online debate (yes, way back then) and wrote at least a dozen long messages. Eventually, as always happens with acid, I crashed. <br /><br />The next day, on waking, I thought, "O Christ, what did I say last night?" I logged on and, with some trepidation, read over the messages I'd launched into the public pool.<br /><br />No wildness. No logical errors (or, at least, no more than I'd ever commit). Not even a typo. The stuff I wrote while stoned out of my gourd read exactly like the stuff I wrote at any other time. Yes, I'm a touch-typist, but still, wouldn't you expect something to show?<br /><br />So my feeling is whatever was crawling out of Dave's subconscious was already ready to emerge. Maybe taking the acid had a lot to do with that. But maybe, just maybe, it didn't.<br />Alex Krislovhttp://tinyurl.com/politictalknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-22379410290990923872016-03-09T04:40:53.020-06:002016-03-09T04:40:53.020-06:00Just tie his shoelaces together.
Nyuk nyuk nyuk
...Just tie his shoelaces together.<br /><br />Nyuk nyuk nyuk<br /><br /><br />Aw, this new spirit of co-existence gladdens my heart, guys. Seeing Jeff disagree on something Dave's said is worth the price of admission alone! <br /><br />Ugh. Can we get back to how it was? This "positivity" crap is bringing up bile into my mouth.<br /><br />Heh. Kidding. <br /><br />Seriously, let's all figure we want to talk about a master cartoonist and do so accordingly. YAY US!Travis Pelkienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-24542979794947575952016-03-09T04:34:02.896-06:002016-03-09T04:34:02.896-06:00Er..."I'm sure you tip just fine."Er..."I'm sure you tip just fine."Jeff Seilerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15543690118315946039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-69300275936499342122016-03-09T04:32:05.262-06:002016-03-09T04:32:05.262-06:00Oh, sorry, Damian. Thank YOU for your comment on m...Oh, sorry, Damian. Thank YOU for your comment on my sincerity. I hope that it will lead to some hopefully greater level of equanimity betwixt thee and me. And, FWIW, I'm you tip just fine.<br /><br />But about last summer... ;)Jeff Seilerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15543690118315946039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-70816543576918575252016-03-09T04:15:04.738-06:002016-03-09T04:15:04.738-06:00Damian, I don't think everything is a conspira...Damian, I don't think everything is a conspiracy. That's why I deliberated and ultimately didn't comment on the LSD post based on my gut instinct. I do think some of your comments are deliberately to push buttons: witness your having outright admitted to snarkiness earlier in this thread. I do sometimes think Dave is a bit lax on his critical thinking, but rarely. For example, I've never been fully on board with all 15 Impossible Things, just most of them. And, I think that's because I live in a much less socialistic country than does Dave, so I don't see what he sees, along those lines.<br /><br />I do have exceedingly strong extra-sensory powers. For example, I Know What You Did Last Summer and how much you shorted that waitress on the tip the other day.<br /><br />See what I did just there, Tim? Sarcasm, not snarkiness.Jeff Seilerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15543690118315946039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-44454967870343742532016-03-09T03:54:59.884-06:002016-03-09T03:54:59.884-06:00I, too, am a Zappa fan, Anthony, but I heard a fai...I, too, am a Zappa fan, Anthony, but I heard a fairly recent interview with Howard Kaylan (Flo or Eddie, I forget which one he is) where he said that Zappa was partaking of other substances with the band. It's disappointing to me if true, because I too am a Zappa fan who loves the idea that he was that weird without illicit substance use.<br /><br />Uh, can I get to something about the post itself? Is that allowed? ;)<br /><br />I could swear that once I finally got most of the back issues, I read in one of the Aardvark Comments not long after Dave's acid trip, Dave establishing that he was in it for the long haul and such. <br /><br />But the book was still bi-monthly. But he had the March 2004 end date, but whatever amount of issues that would last (around 170-180, I think?).<br /><br />So my question is: was there a significance to the March 2004 date, since, as I'm remembering it, it was the DATE and not the #300 that was announced at that point in time?<br /><br />I thought I'd seen Dave say something more recently, though, that he figured the math wrong and was a year off somewhere, or something, when figuring to #300. Anyone remember that?Travis Pelkienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-87164965732395291612016-03-09T01:40:34.296-06:002016-03-09T01:40:34.296-06:00Jeff, why can't things be what they appear to ...Jeff, why can't things be what they appear to be? Why does everything have to be a conspiracy? Perhaps Tim posted an excerpt from an article about Dave and <i>Cerebus</i> because this blog is dedicated to those things, not as a hit piece out of revenge. Perhaps I comment here out of a desire to express an opinion or to correct misinformation, not a desire to push people's buttons. Perhaps I criticize Dave because I disagree with him, not because I desire to harm his reputation. Perhaps I praise Dave's work because I like his work, not because I want to create just enough plausibility that I'm a good guy. Perhaps it's possible to think that Dave's thinking is sloppy without thinking that he's crazy.<br /><br />Or perhaps your claims are completely correct, in which case I'm impressed that your ESP is strong enough that you can divine the motivations of individuals hundreds or even thousands of miles away. I'm sorry that my ESP was deficient, and I didn't realize that you were deliberately refraining from commenting on this thread when I invoked your name.<br /><br />But thank you for your last comment (04:52). May I say in return, as I have said here before, that -- for all the differences we have -- I have never doubted the sincerity of your love for Dave and your appreciation of his work. One thing I am confident we agree on is that <i>Cerebus</i> and Dave's other works are worthy of discussion.<br /><br /> -- DamianDamian T. Lloyd, Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15423589734839129158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-54452351690902240132016-03-08T22:52:02.158-06:002016-03-08T22:52:02.158-06:00Oh, and, just to be clear and fair, Damian, I do t...Oh, and, just to be clear and fair, Damian, I do think that your positive comments about Dave's artwork are sincere and well-intentioned.Jeff Seilerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15543690118315946039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-55292581165792625992016-03-08T22:47:42.882-06:002016-03-08T22:47:42.882-06:00Sorry, meant to type "not *intentionally* att...Sorry, meant to type "not *intentionally* attacking or provoking me." There is a difference. If just your everyday, garden variety comments let your personality and the negative aspects thereof shine through, and that provokes me, well, then, I can't take that personally. After all, that's just Damian being the sort of...<br /><br />well...Damian that he is. Not intentionally, but just because, you know, that's Damian.Jeff Seilerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15543690118315946039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-13637191075294255102016-03-08T22:36:18.132-06:002016-03-08T22:36:18.132-06:00Damian, I think your post above just proves how in...Damian, I think your post above just proves how ingrained your desire to push people's buttons is. I thought about chiming in on this post after it first went up because it was posted within hours after Dave commented that Tim is (as are you, he added) part of the CJUA. "Oh, look," I thought, "more crazy Dave Sim bullshit, that Tim posted after being called out by Dave." But, I held off, didn't comment because I also thought that the article seemed kinda fair and accurate. I thought it best to lay off of Tim and lay low.<br /><br />So, what do you do? You invoke my name, even though I had purposely stayed out of this one. And you throw out some bs about Sandeep and I harming Dave's reputation, even though that is what you seek to do with the majority of your comments. You put up just enough comments about his artwork to make it seem like you're a good guy, but you attack his character (not to mention, occasionally mine) at every opportunity.<br /><br />I can handle you attacking Dave. Don't particularly like it and I will defend him when I think you're being particularly snarky or are just plain wrong. Dave is a public (sorta) figure. So are you, for that matter, if my Google search of your name was accurate. (Sorry, never heard of you outside these lines.) But I am not a public figure outside of these lines. So, I would appreciate it if you confined yourself to not attacking or provoking me. <br /><br />Don't you have better things to do, like your work, or even just more navel-gazing?Jeff Seilerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15543690118315946039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-12546461973356485942016-03-08T19:37:30.407-06:002016-03-08T19:37:30.407-06:00Dammit, Steve! Now I've sprayed coffee on my m...Dammit, Steve! Now I've sprayed coffee on my monitor again!<br /><br /> -- Damian<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-83208719068333207442016-03-08T19:19:36.527-06:002016-03-08T19:19:36.527-06:00Damian, don't forget that the sky could possib...<br />Damian, don't forget that the sky could possibly be green due to aurora borealis. <br /><br />Just saying...<br /><br />SteveStevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06324364972414451992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-67143934576795178782016-03-08T18:35:15.091-06:002016-03-08T18:35:15.091-06:00"...there's a time to experiment with dru..."...there's a time to experiment with drugs, and that time is called college."<br /><br />Amateurs. By the time I hit college, I was way past the experiment phase...Tony againnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-51546457836920621922016-03-08T17:07:19.591-06:002016-03-08T17:07:19.591-06:00Barry, I'm not sure I agree. If the light sour...Barry, I'm not sure I agree. If the light source is the windows behind Cerebus, wouldn't shadows fall even on the uppper-right side of his biceps? Still, you're a cartoonist and I'm not, so perhaps you're right.<br /><br />I agree that the image looks great. The detail on Cerebus's arm, and the boldness of line on his arm and legs, contrasted with the comparatively thinner lines on his face, emphasize his physicality over his personality, and amplify the threat of the sword thrust forward and beyond the closed space of the panel border. A powerful panel, and a reminder that this Sim guy is a good cartoonist.<br /><br /> -- Damian<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-55134046761055302242016-03-08T15:17:55.112-06:002016-03-08T15:17:55.112-06:00BTW
I did answer Dave's 15 impossible thingies...BTW<br />I did answer Dave's 15 impossible thingies in the post belowEricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-51159925772916722962016-03-08T15:17:03.461-06:002016-03-08T15:17:03.461-06:00I keed! I keed!I keed! I keed!Ericknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-58823635881168916512016-03-08T15:14:28.858-06:002016-03-08T15:14:28.858-06:00This explains reads!This explains reads!Ericknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-53982112991753246802016-03-08T14:56:05.821-06:002016-03-08T14:56:05.821-06:00(Even I admit that my last comment was a bit snark...(Even I admit that my last comment was a bit snarky, but it is along the lines of a thesis I'm still working on: that alleged defenders of Dave, like Sandeep and Jeff, are in fact doing material harm to Dave's reputation and that of his work. Consider how fundamentalist Scientologists make people think less of L. Ron Hubbard. I'm still building my case for this.)<br /><br /> -- DamianAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-86168363465936110152016-03-08T14:52:10.087-06:002016-03-08T14:52:10.087-06:00Sandeep, just out of curiosity: If Dave said the s...Sandeep, just out of curiosity: If Dave said the sky was green, would you run outside to check before agreeing with him, or would you agree then and there?<br /><br /> -- Damian<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2837001751311078781.post-81959805806227568032016-03-08T14:40:49.129-06:002016-03-08T14:40:49.129-06:00I always wince when folks say things like this in ...I always wince when folks say things like this in front of billions of people in an era when border officials have decided to run Google searches on any names they check - and they check all of them.CerebusTVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17390062450571489309noreply@blogger.com