It must have been a professional thrill for li'l Dave from Kitchener to be asked by Marvel to do a couple of pinups for the glossy-paper Fanfare. Even though Dave was the DC guy, and Gene Day was the Marvel guy.
Well, in 1986 he wasn't just "li'l Dave from Kitchener" anymore...
So does "foreshortening" mean whatever it is Dave did to make MK's right hand look so badly out-of-proportion? I mean, either his hand is the size of his head, or his arm is about 5 feet long.
Yeah, Tony, I'm pretty sure "foreshortening" is a camera term that means that the camera is utilized in such a way as to make the subject look closer to the camera than it (the subject) actually is.
If someone knows more about this than I do, chime in.
Tony D.: Perhaps he wasn't merely "li'l Dave from Kitchener", but he wasn't a name to conjure with either -- except among the comics cognoscenti, both readers and (especially) professionals. His work seldom appeared outside his own comic, and yet here's Chris Claremont, the number-one writer in the field, sitting down next to him and saying, "Hey Dave, let's do a crossover between your aardvark book and the best-selling book in the industry?" He never exactly broke into the field; he became accepted as a professional just by writing and drawing exactly what he wanted.
Damian, I don't know if you were around at the time, but it was apparent that both Marvel and DC would have loved to get their filthy paws on the Cerebus "franchise" (what a grotesque term for an artist's creation) - which, admittedly, is not the same thing as having respect for Dave Sim, the artist or the human being.
Tony D.: Ha! Yeah, I'm old. I remember Dave citing as one of his reasons for publishing High Society that DC had offered him six figures for Cerebus. I didn't know about Marvel's interest; did they make an offer too?
Actually I'm thinking of a "Note from the President" in which Dave referred to "rumors of Cerebus going to Marvel." I have no direct knowledge but I'm thinking such rumors couldn't have just sprung out of nowhere.
And Dave could'a maybe written Howard the Duck for Marvel. Picture that: a bimonthly Cerebus and a monthly, Sim-scripted HtD. I like to think that the different conditions and remuneration of the corporate-owned-and-controlled versus creator-owned-and-controlled would have led Dave to quite HtD in a huff over unwarranted editorial interference, and devote himself to the now-monthly Cerebus.
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The Sim-meister doing his best Neil Adams impression. Love the fore-shortening!
--Jeff
NEAL! NEAL!
Just gotta love having a 5 foot long right arm...
Steve
Fascinating drawing. While the head and cape look very Sienkewicz, those hands are all Dave Sim.
It must have been a professional thrill for li'l Dave from Kitchener to be asked by Marvel to do a couple of pinups for the glossy-paper Fanfare. Even though Dave was the DC guy, and Gene Day was the Marvel guy.
-- Damian
Well, in 1986 he wasn't just "li'l Dave from Kitchener" anymore...
So does "foreshortening" mean whatever it is Dave did to make MK's right hand look so badly out-of-proportion? I mean, either his hand is the size of his head, or his arm is about 5 feet long.
Yeah, Tony, I'm pretty sure "foreshortening" is a camera term that means that the camera is utilized in such a way as to make the subject look closer to the camera than it (the subject) actually is.
If someone knows more about this than I do, chime in.
--Jeff
Tony D.: Perhaps he wasn't merely "li'l Dave from Kitchener", but he wasn't a name to conjure with either -- except among the comics cognoscenti, both readers and (especially) professionals. His work seldom appeared outside his own comic, and yet here's Chris Claremont, the number-one writer in the field, sitting down next to him and saying, "Hey Dave, let's do a crossover between your aardvark book and the best-selling book in the industry?" He never exactly broke into the field; he became accepted as a professional just by writing and drawing exactly what he wanted.
-- Damian
Damian, I don't know if you were around at the time, but it was apparent that both Marvel and DC would have loved to get their filthy paws on the Cerebus "franchise" (what a grotesque term for an artist's creation) - which, admittedly, is not the same thing as having respect for Dave Sim, the artist or the human being.
Tony D.: Ha! Yeah, I'm old. I remember Dave citing as one of his reasons for publishing High Society that DC had offered him six figures for Cerebus. I didn't know about Marvel's interest; did they make an offer too?
-- Damian
Actually I'm thinking of a "Note from the President" in which Dave referred to "rumors of Cerebus going to Marvel." I have no direct knowledge but I'm thinking such rumors couldn't have just sprung out of nowhere.
And of course Marvel/Epic had already published several Cerebus stories.
And Dave could'a maybe written Howard the Duck for Marvel. Picture that: a bimonthly Cerebus and a monthly, Sim-scripted HtD. I like to think that the different conditions and remuneration of the corporate-owned-and-controlled versus creator-owned-and-controlled would have led Dave to quite HtD in a huff over unwarranted editorial interference, and devote himself to the now-monthly Cerebus.
-- Damian
Er, "would have led Dave to quit". Sorry, Jeff S.
-- Damian
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