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A Moment Of Cerebus:
How did you discover Cerebus and how long did you read it for?
Matthew Brown:
For some reason my grandmother, a PhD in Psychology who knew absolutely
nothing about comic books, decided before visiting us to consult the cashier
in her local comic book store as to what an 9 year old comic fan (me) might like.
She brought Cerebus, I think... #22, "The Death of Elrod" I had never seen
a black-and-white comic book drawn in that style and didn't get it, but still had
a look through it every now and then and tried to get the jokes.
Maybe two years later, when I was in Grade 6 (11 years old,) a classmate had the first
Wolveroach issue. Since I was obsessed with Frank Miller's Daredevil and the
Wolverine mini-series he was just drawing at that time (written by Chris Claremont,)
I got obsessed with having the other 2 Wolveroach issues, despite not quite
getting why the Roach was smoking a bundle of toothpicks. My grandmother
kindly brought these for me on her next visit from Washington, DC.
I read Cerebus from these Wolveroach issues to about just after Cerebus re-awakes
holding Jaka's doll and starts slicing up Cirinists after a long coma on a cafe terrace.
I bought the next year or two intending to read them at one go, then couldn't
sustain my interest in them and let it go (this must be about 10 years later.)
How has your own creativity/comics been influenced by Cerebus?
The timing, for one thing. Dave Sim had a respect and love for the natural cadences
of speech, and always gave the story time to unfold around these. Maybe because
I also studied Theatre (especially playwriting,) his ear (and hand) for these moments
of interchange between characters became a goal for me, too.
But Dave's drawings were also much more elegant than anything going on
in comics at the time I started reading (1980s,) with fancy borders and lots of
empty space for characters to move through. This idea, that comics could be
elegant (even if still featuring characters smashing each other over the head
or falling down the stairs,) fascinated me.
Another feature was having a large cast of characters, all of them with distinctive
mannerisms, running the gamut in representation from extremely cartoony and
caricature-like (Red Sophia's mother Mrs.Henrot-Gutch, the farmer from the "Wuffa Wuffa Wuffa" issue)
to nuanced and naturalistic (Jaka), and naturally co-habiting the same world.
Has Cerebus influenced your approach to working in the comics industry?
Absolutely! When I did my first photocopied, hand-stapled comic book in 1989 or 1990 (Entropy) I mailed
Dave a copy. He sent me back a cheque for $10! (The cover price was much lower than that! Even
with postage included!) Almost every comic I've done since then has been self-published.
I am from Toronto. Along with Chester Brown's first, self-published Yummy Fur, Dave's work set
an example for the kind of black and white, self-published comics I wanted to do.
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| Cerebus #97 (April 1987) Art by Dave Sim & Gerhard |
A few of my favourites:
a) The interchange with Astoria when she is blindfolded and still able to manipulate Cerebus,
and they get married and then divorced within the sequence, as well as Cerebus indulging in
his "acquired taste" with her, although in a terrible and inhuman manner.
Sophisticated Theological Debate: "Tarim!" "Terim!" "TARIM!" "TERIM!"
... and when Astoria asks Cerebus why he quoted her revolutionary line
"One less mouth to feed is one less mouth to feed" in one of his speeches
from the rooftop as Pope, and he admits he read it on the wall of a latrine.
Astoria's response, bound to the wall, but still able to roll her eyes in derision:
"Immortality is mine." (Favourite moment in the entire series.)
b) The dream sequences when Cerebus was pope. Amazing Freudian excursions into
Cerebus' subconscious, playing with plot foreshadowing and a seamless surreal landscape
aided and abetted by Gerhard's beautiful backgrounds.
c) The 2-in-1 issue at the end of Church & State where Cerebus goes into the bar after being
told on the moon that he will "die alone, unmourned and unloved," and tells the barman
and the arguing patrons who complain, "I just wish that somebody would tell me how it's
all going to end" that humans will destroy the world with a solar bomb.
Plus, the only letter I ever had printed was printed in that issue! Which I gave away, along with many of my other priceless comics, to a Zen Buddhist Temple garage sale.
At the time it was an experiment in emptiness, but now, just feels... empty!
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| Cerebus #97 (April 1987) Art by Dave Sim & Gerhard |
Would you recommend others read Cerebus, and if so why?
I would recommend that anyone with a very flexible mind read Cerebus,
because it's a tough job to follow Dave Sim through parody, satire, slapstick, political and cultural
commentary, literate ambitions and emotional/pschological drama, as well as numerous references
to fandom and comic books from the 1970s to the present, and a tolerance
for meandering plotlines... but a LOVE FOR GENIUS!
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