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Alright, Cirin, Serna, and Gerrick.
Who is who's son?
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| According to Theresa in Church & State 1, Not Cirin... |
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| So, he IS Cirin's son... |
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| Oh sure now HE'S bossing me around... |
The answer lies in Reads:
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| Click for the biggerness... |
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| Click for the biggerness, again... |
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| Click for the spooky biggerness. |
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| Yikes. Big. Click |
So Gerrick is Serna's son, and AFTER she became Cirin, she adopted her own kid.
Take THAT Days of Our Lives!!!
(Also, Spoilers for a storyline that ended almost fifteen years ago...)
Next Time: Bawitdaba, da bang, da dang diggy diggy diggy, said the boogie, said up jump the boogie His name is HHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOBBBBBBBSSSSSSS!!!! Ben Hobbs! Bawitdaba da bang da bang diggy diggy diggy
9 comments:
One of the many things I love about Cerebus-- Dave sometimes gets around to unraveling these mysteries, but just as often he just leaves them there, for you to address/think about/analyze for yourself. There's very little of the, let's say, genre-fiction impulse to explicate every. little. detail.
Which isn't to say that the answer isn't there in the first place!
A topic of conversation for you Cerebus fans with REALLY long memories and an eye for detail. Who's the narrator of the latter part of Church and State II?
Hmmmm.
Is something a mystery if you didn't realize it's a mystery?
Too easy, Sean.
(spolier alert) of course we find out later that Cirin/Serna knows him by another name...
Speaking of Cirin/Serna, another characteristic about Dave's writing is that we all know better than to take anything any character says at face value...INCLUDING the "human Cirin" of course....
Hah! That clip is great.
No, I mean the writer of the narrative of the ascension, in the rotating, otherwise-silent issue. or do you mean you think the Judge is that narrator? Hmmmm.
Oh! No, I certainly do not - I'd forgotten all about *that* narration. Hmm, I'll have to think about that.
But I REALLY wanted to post Flip Wilson. I'm actually old enough to have seen that clip when it first aired...by gum.
I'd say there are only really three plausible candidates to choose from (and I have a fav in mind...)
Is the whole Serna(Aardvark) and Cirin(Human) conflict supposed to be evocative of Joseph Stalin and Lenin?
Why didn't Serna have Cirin killed instead of interned for life? I seem to remember Serna being afraid of something.
"Is the whole Serna(Aardvark) and Cirin(Human) conflict supposed to be evocative of Joseph Stalin and Lenin?"
My take was and is that it represented something like (and using Simian characterizations of both) the conflict between 'sane' feminism--promoting/advocating the role of women in keeping children safe, making a house a home, etc.--versus the insane, militaristic feminism that appeared in the late 1960s. The human (Cirin->Serna) symbolizing the former, the aardvark (Serna->Cirin), the latter.
Alright,
Mitch.
From the Cerebusfangirl site Q&A:
Q4 Cont: What is Gerrick's true lineage? Is he the biological son of the human Cirin, the aardvark Serna, or some other woman? Also, in the letters page, you state "I should be getting to the Gerrick stuff (is he the natural son of Cirin or adopted, etc.) in an issue or two, unless it fits in better somewhere else." So was there a plot thread that you decided not to include - and if so, can you give us a brief description of what it might have been?
DAVE: Mm. Not really. He was either the natural son of Cirin (actually Serna)and consequently a demonstration of the reality cited above: aardvarks are aberrational spontaneous mutations by that point or the adopted son of Cirin (actually Serna). As seems to me the nature of most parents I don’t think Cirin (actually Serna) could cope with the idea that she hadn’t produced an imperfect replica of herself which is what made her so compulsive about cracking the mysteries of genetics. She was an aardvark and she had to produce a little aardvark or die trying.
I ended up being about as interested in Gerrick as Cirin (actually Serna) was. That is, not very. He was not an aardvark and that’s really all that could be said about him.
-Eddie
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