SEE THE COMMENTS FOR A SEMI-OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THOSE THAT MISSED OUT
It's done. Thank you to everyone that ordered a copy of the Spawn 10 Halloween Edition and the Spawn 10 Grandma Edition. Everybody on the team really appreciates your contributions. We are striving to make these some really awesome comics.
Best to everyone,
David B and the whole AV team
Latest number from Eddie: 54 and counting...
26 comments:
Where was the grandma version. What is it. I would have ordered one if I had any idea where it was to order. What is it and I can I please get one?
Gotta add my voice to the "Grandma? What Grandma? What? What happened," chorus.
Whatever it was happened without me and that's terribly disappointing.
Hi! Yesterday, at 1200 EST in the morning, begun two Flash Sales for two versions of a HALLOWEEN EDITION of SPAWN 10. There was the Kickstarter GRANDMA EDITION, being offered as an add-on for only 24 hours (until 1159pm EST last night) to Backers of SPAWN 10 Remastered & Expanded Kickstarter by The Waverly Press and Dave, and there was a CEREBUSDOWNLOADS UNCENSORED HALLOWEEN EDITION, which was being offered directly for purchase to fans for 24 HRS from cerebusdownloads.com. Both flash sales concluded last night, I regret to inform you.
If I hadn’t been off yesterday from my seasonal night job I probably would have missed all the details myself.
Here’s a link with Dave elaborating on some details: http://momentofcerebus.blogspot.com/2020/10/dastardly-dave-update-7.html?m=1. You can also scroll through the posts by AMOC for Saturday, 31 October 2020, which were plenteous yesterday. Doing that will probably give you the best idea about what was going on then.
Super frustrating. If you are going to do an event you should be coordinated. The Kickstarter clearly stated it was the Halloween cover. I ordered and then did family stuff. If I’d known I’d have ordered both. Now feeling like canceling my full Kickstarter bid because it’s not possible to get all covers. I wish the Kickstarter messaging had mentioned this.
Kickstarter may reorder a limited about of Halloween ones because people missed out, you need to offer the other version today again. Free money because I and many others that now know about it will buy it.
I was here at midnight but I couldn’t find a link to buy it and apparently I wasn’t the only one confused. I didn’t see a Kickstarter. Oh wells bummer
This came down the pike from Waverly a couple hours ago, as a response to a comment in the KS, which conveyed similar concerns which have been expressed here. Might be of interest.
“The main differences between the 2 versions are Dave's text that he designed for the back cover. Also, the Kickstarter "Grandma" version is unsigned but comes with several new collectibles exclusive to this edition. Dave's version is signed but does not come with the extras. Hopefully this calcifies the confusion over the 2 editions. Thank you all for your support!”
I’m now more confused than ever. I thought my Halloween Kickstarter add on was the uncensored/unsigned version with a pin. If that’s not the case I’m canceling. Why they sold another version at the same time on Cerebus Downloads is kinda dumb. Talk about gumming up the works.
The image they had posted on Kickstarter was the uncensored version, so if is the grandma version, they didn't have the right cover up. Waverly says they didn't know about Dave's version until it was live. I hope they reorder both of these because this is a mess.
It turns out Android devices were having real trouble with the Kickstarter Add-On page. That and the late announcement caused some consternation. Dagon James at The Waverly Press is contacting Dave about it and it's almost certain more copies will be made available. Dave does not work on Sundays but I imagine there will be some movement on this early in the week. Dave hasn't finished the cover yet so there's no need to panic. Watch AMOC and the SPAWN 10 Kickstarter page for information.
Yeah I have to go back, and look on Kickstarter. It’s doesn’t say anything about a Grandma edition. Basically the only way out of this mess is to ask Kickstarter people what version they want sense the Downloads people were the only ones who knew what they were getting. This will mess the numbers up but so be it. I am not down however for more issues being printed, and sold to those that did pledge/buy in the window. That’s the whole point oh the FOMO flash sale. Just add it the surveys. Did you order a Halloween edition? If so which one do you want? Do you want it signed or have some weird sticker on it?
I did get the Halloween edition in the time, but didn't even know about Cerebus Downloads and never thought they would offer a variant of the IKS spawn 10 there. I would have bought one of each then.
This whole flash deal was poorly executed. I managed to get 2 from cerebusdownloads and adjust KS pledge for 1. I thought I was paying attention but did not realize the KS was also a flash deal. Which is as foolish as it might be innovative...I lean toward foolish.
Here's the problem: both flash deals generated a certain ordering level. I ordered 2 from cerebusdownloads figuring it would be low numbering based on how confusingly the whole offer was being done. If this CDO issue is offered again, then I'll be irritated because the numbers will go up and contrary to the original offer. 24 hours, then sales close.
Same logic on the KS. Although now offense is two-factored: 1 because those backers are generating a lot of money and now have perceived incompleteness in the KS, 1 because something linked to the KS was not available via the KS. Poor decision, poor poor execution.
Stupid stupid stupid way to run a promotion. I don't see a way anyone involved can make things right for everyone; hopefully everyone involved learned a thing or two about doing these types of promotions (hint: avoid effing with the KS stuff).
I will wait until Monday, and if the fix isn't good enough I'm just pulling my money.
TWP just posted this on Kickstarter "Dave sold his own variant without coordinating with us.". I wonder how true this is? I actually thought this was fixable but now I doubt it is. The attractive low production numbers would get all messed up. Seems like the best thing to do is cancle.
The thing with this issue is there are two fan bases. I am hard-core Spawn, so I have not really followed Cerebus or the Cerebus websites as much. Cerebus fans do. So offering a version of the KS Spawn book on a Cerebus site misses half the audience. That is why a heads up since it IS a Spawn issue, to the Spawn fans who dont regularly check the Cerebus site or blog should have happened. I hope something can be done.
Only thing that needs to be done here is fill the orders placed on the 31st, and not offer any more at all, leave it as is. Yeah it's a bit of messed up communication here and there, but it adds to the limited nature of the item "the almost secret limited version nobody knew about". This Spawn 10 campaign has 17 books to it now. Don't fix anything, leave orders closed and move to the next one. Lets have a Dave does Spawn left handed cover.
Hi Matt!
Suggestion:
Set aside one blog post that has minute-to-minute ordering info
Update the post when needed (minute-to-minute)
Link the 'current ordering info' blog post in each new post (minute-to-minute)
Or hey, add it to the side bar: //// CURRENT ORDERING INFO! ////
Hope that's helpful...
And call it the Varka Page
All links point to Varka...
Man I'm pushing it...
Yeah but I don’t even want the issue I was sold now because it was labeled wrong on Kickstarter.
TWP just said they sold 160 or so of the untitled grandma edition that they advertised with the wrong cover art. The hourly tally AMOC was doing was for their own cover. I’m out.
Anybody want cheese with all that whine? What a bunch of crybabies.
Welp, I'ma gonna go through and answer all these in today's post (available later tonight,) but just wanted to say that BOTH covers have the SAME art. I believe they both have hand lettering by Dave (mea culpa if I'm wrong on that.) The only difference is the content of the word balloons.
Just an FYI.
Manly Matt Dow
The art is exactly the same. The lettering is different on the back cover. One is called Halloween Edition (with the CONTROVERSY!) that was sold on Cerebus Downloads. One is called Grandma Edition (with different back cover lettering) that was sold on Kickstarter. There is currently a discussion about the Grandma version, the name will more than likely be changed but I have not heard anything definitive. Several of the cover images on the Kickstarter page have details that have since or will be altered, edited, added to and so on.
I can certainly understand being disappointed if you missed out or angry if you knew about it and Kickstarter's technical difficulties caused you to not get one. Dave was originally only going advertise the Halloween Edition on AMOC and nowhere else. Word got out anyway. It was a surprise, one day sale and a chance for loyal followers of AMOC to get a shot at something really rare.
Dave Sim has sent a statement to Matt offering a solution. I'm sure Matt will share it later. Some folks aren't going to like it. Some folks won't care. The Waverly Press has not said anything yet. I'm not an official spokesperson, I just worked on some of the covers so please don't shoot the messenger. I just letting any interested parties know that the situation is being discussed.
Whoever is running this crowdfunding campaign is fucking it up.
-- Damian
Okay, comment up through 1 November 2020 at 23:15 are answered here: https://momentofcerebus.blogspot.com/2020/11/grandma-got-run-over-by-hellspawn.html
Along with the beginning of Dave's solution to this mess.
AND, the debut of "THE MOST SENSATIONAL CHARACTER FIND OF 2020"
AND AND I just wanna quote Michael Vick when he was asked about the Colin Kaepernick controversy, "I don't have a dog in this fight..." I didn't buy EITHER version. So it's not like I'm going to care if I can't get one...
Manly Matt Dow
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