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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is Dave talking about? Well, if you're a longtime suffering Patreon supporter like me, you already know. And if you're NOT a longtime suffering Patreon supporter, maybe you should become one. (It's REALLY neat!) ((But, uh, all the rest of you longtime sufferers, "hush hush" nu?))
Cerebus Archive Number Eight: Women
And the Varking Dead is FOC has passed which means:
Green Dante/Green Virgil!
Next Time: Mail's here. Bill. Bill. Birdsong sent in stuff. Bill...
What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is Dave talking about? Well, if you're a longtime suffering Patreon supporter like me, you already know. And if you're NOT a longtime suffering Patreon supporter, maybe you should become one. (It's REALLY neat!) ((But, uh, all the rest of you longtime sufferers, "hush hush" nu?))
Cerebus Archive Number Eight: Women
And the Varking Dead is FOC has passed which means:
Green Dante/Green Virgil!
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| Can you believe Diamond screwed up the title in Previews? |
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| Look at that cover! ALL NEW art by DAVE SIM, Colors by, Your Pal and Mine, Sean Michael Robinson! (If you wanna see it uncolored, just come on over to Stately Dow Manor. I got a print of it on the wall of the Stairway of Solitude...) |
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36 comments:
I think Dave Sim just proved that "Don't use it, ya lose it" does not always apply.
Well, the drawing's great, but man, the dialogue...waaaay too wordy to be funny.
I imagine we will all find out what's wrong with Cerebus and Twitter once that CIH? #1 is out.
I, for one, try to keep my sense of humor on Twitter, though some of those pranksters David alluded to above really tested my patience and my poise on the platform.
These tweets are weird. Does Sim even support Trump? I can't recall him commenting on that actually, but my gut feeling is he probably wouldn't. But I've been wrong before.
Byron, Dave wrote me a lengthy letter a month or so ago about why he supports President Trump. When he called me earlier this week when I was in the hospital, I told him that I had read his letter and that I thought it was best if he (Dave) and I just agree to disagree about President Trump. Dave said that he had no problem with that.
Upon reflection, my comment above added nothing and was merely combative. I will say that David B. does not seem to understand what "free speech" means.
-- Damian
Ah. I don't have any problem with Sim supporting Trump (I have some liberal leanings but am mostly centrist or nonpolitical). But from what I read of Sim's political views in Cerebus, I would have guessed Trump would be too left-leaning for Sim, not mention suspicious of Islam. I'd be interested in reading the letter Sim wrote to you if you're both comfortable publishing it one day.
Sorry to hear you were in the hospital Jeff, hope you're all healed up now.
Nice to see Dave back to drawing. looks great
Byron--Thank you for your concern over my health. Dave and I have a long-standing "tradition" of calling and speaking with one another when either of us is in hospital or otherwise down for the count. He is very gracious about that with me, as I am sure that he is with others. I am well as can be now. Thanks.
As to his pro-Trump letter...hmmm. First of all, and most pertinently, President Trump is not Dave's president (although I will admit that I occasionally have discussed various Canadian Prime Ministers with Dave over the years).
Secondly, I received Dave's letter about President Trump (which was a direct response to the question that I had put to Dave a few weeks earlier, which was, "what do you think of Trump now?") *before*, but just slightly before the impeachment proceedings had begun. So, you know, factor that in.
Third, I have learned over the years to try not to quote Dave about controversial matters when he is trying to make a big sales push. That's just common courtesy.
Fourth, I would need Dave's permission, in this case (as a rarity) in order to reprint it. I can say that it is, as has always been the case with his correspondence with me (and, obviously, most others) well-thought-out, even though it's mostly wrong this time (in my opinion). But, it did make me think and I found that I could agree with a few points that Dave made. God knows that my stocks and bonds accounts love Donald Trump.
So, I will ask Dave if I can reprint the letter here, even as the sham trial is beginning. BTW, I am a life-long Republican.
Check back.
That David B.'s does not understand what "free speech" means is proven by his own words. At no point did Carol Tilley say that Dave did not have the right to publish CiH, yet David B. feels (one can't call that thinking) that expressing a negative opinion about a work is somehow anti-free-speech. Perhaps David B. is one of those typical RWNJ whiners who feel, "You're infringing on my free speech by disagreeing with me! Waaaah!"
If we want to talk lack of commitment to free speech, let's consider the case of Mr. Dave Sim, former free-speech purist, who has cagily refused to condemn the murder of people who draw pictures of Mohammed. Apparently Dave (like most RWNJs) believes in free speech, but there are some things that you shouldn't be allowed to say.
David B. should be ashamed of himself, if shame was something conservatives were capable of.
-- Damian
Oh hell, can't I just laugh at a bunch of ninnies making asses of themselves on Twitter (H/T to Mr. Dow), without it becoming some sort of philosophico-political cage match?
Ah, thank you Tony,
You've proven to me that I HAVE made the world a better place...
Matt
"Cagily refused to condemn". What nuanced b.s. youve given us here. Of all the stupid things to accuse Dave of... ypu doubt his commitment to free speech? Really??
Sean R.: I stand by my statement. Calling me names refutes my argument at your school?
-- Damian
Ah! David Barbarian weighs in. Sorry, I won't be at ComiCon. Anyway, the last time I accepted your challenge, you chickened out, making you both a barbarian and a coward. This is the best you've got, dude? Really? Calling me a girl? Really?
-- Damian
Boys, boys, boys.
Let's all take a moment (heh.) to catch our collective breaths.
David: let's not make me start the proper exploitation of fan fights.
Sean: just wait a minute.
Damian: To borrow your own rhetoric, name five times Dave has been AGAINST Free Speech, other than the Mohamed cartoons.
Matt
Matt: Admittedly, I'm not sure I could name five times. Fortunately, I need only one to disprove the claim that Dave is a free-speech purist.
-- Damian
Hey Damian, please reread my comment. I didn't call you any names, and I agree that's hardly a way to refute an idea. I just think it's silly on its face to doubt Dave's commitment to free speech. Other than his interest in comics, that might be his most consistent interest in his public life. Certainly his support of the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund is quite a bit of evidence right there.
So do tell-- where's this non-denunciation you refer to? And what were you hoping to hear instead?
David B.: Yes, son, I'm sure you're the terror of the playground at your school. It's been my experience that the larger the bluster, the smaller the threat.
Sean R.: I'll find the actual quotation; I'm afraid I'm away from my house this week. The gist was that someone asked Dave whether he thought it was okay to murder people who drew pictures of Mohammed, and Dave said that he wouldn't draw such pictures and that people who did might find that people who were offended would take action about it.
-- Damian
“I'll find the actual quotation; I'm afraid I'm away from my house this week.”
You keep records on what Dave says?
-Eddie
Thank for asking, Eddie! It gives me the opportunity to announce that I am working on an essay on Cerebus and Dave Sim -- a piece that engages Cerebus as a literary work and assesses its strengths and weaknesses on that basis, as well as historically in the North American comic-book industry. Been working on it for over a year now, and I've no firm schedule for finishing it (this is just a hobby, after all), but anyone who would like to receive a copy is welcome to email me; I promise to reply not at all except with the eventual manuscript.
Oh, and David B.: I've gotta ask, why are you so obsessed with my genitals? I mean, I don't have a problem if you're gay or bi or whatever, but I'm in a relationship with a lovely woman, so get your mind out of my pants.
-- Damian
Damian, count me down as an interested party in your essay. Very interested in reading what a fan who is somewhat critical of Dave has to think about him and his work. Have already emailed you but wanted to say it here publicly.
Brian--I think, from some experience in reading Damian's prior comments about both "Cerebus" and Dave Sim, that Damian's manifesto would go something like this:
"Cerebus" didn't totally suck and was even quite good, until its author became religious and an actively anti-feminist (except that Damian will erroneously substitute the word misogynist for anti-feminist). Damian will then add various diatribes about and against Dave Sim as a person. If Damian gets up a full head of steam, then he might even make (or repeat) personal attacks about and against the fans who support Dave Sim both as an auteur and as a person.
So, there ya go, Brian. I saved you the time of reading Damian's "hobby" literature and I saved Damian the cost of mailing a copy of it to you. You're welcome.
Gosh, thanks, Jeffie! That is a real load off!
And for adults, I will repeat a slightly modified offer: I will email you to acknowledge that I have received your request, and then not bother you again until I have something for you to read. Thanks!
-- Damian
And yet, somehow, Damian, you periodically find a way or ways to "bother" many of us, apparently just to get your jollies.
It no longer upsets me (except when you attack me personally, which, to your credit, you have not done for quite some time).
But, you do seem to enjoy just being a sort of general ... um, sorry, looking for the exactly accurate mot juste (without being a name-caller) ....
Um. Hmm. This isn't easy. Um ... d÷×#? No, no; not nice. Hmm. Um, @s#%●}€? No, too obvious. Hmmm.
Oh! I know, sorta! What's that word for some hanging male appendage, or the opening at the lower end of the alimentary canal, who just likes to see if he can get people riled up?
Oh, yeah! Proventriculus!!! No, wait. That's not it.
Ah! Here it is: A Vexing Agent Provocateur.
Yes. Quite so.
If you can some day see the clear path to NOT being a provocateur, I believe that many folks here at AMOC (though I can speak only definitively for myself), might appreciate your having done so.
Thank you, in advance.
*stomp*
*stomp*
*stomp*
*opens door to the rumpus room*
What the Hell are you kids doing in here?
Damian: I too am interested in your essay. (I'll even run it here if you want.)
Birdsong, Seiler: listen Wally and the Beav, Damian might be a pedantic annoying twat, but he's MY pedantic annoying twat. So name-calling, bating and generally being complete dicks is done. As Thumper said in Bambi, "if you don't have anything nice to say, shut the Fuck Up." I get he rubs you the wrong way. Hell, on occasion, he's rubbed ME the wrong way. But, that doesn't excuse acting like shit-headed second graders on the playground. "But he..." I don't care if he sodomized your mother while simultaneously pouring sugar in your gas tank, be civil or...
(Gee, Matt, you had a nice head of steam going there, whatcha gonna do to the bums? I'm glad you asked self, I don't know what I CAN do to the bums. Take away their birthdays? Chinese Water Torture? Oh, I know...)
I shall be very VERY cross with you.
Consequences, gentlemen, CON sequ ENCES!
Play nice boys...or else
Matt Dow
(Yes June, I was very hard on the Beaver. And if you're not careful, I'll be hard on the Beaver again tonight...)
Damien
I hope you'll decide to post your essay here on "A Moment of Cerebus" when it's eventually written.
I think it would be a very interesting to read & fun to discus.
Glen, I sincerely hope that Damian does not try to out-discus you. Given his nature, Damian might just try to sever your cranium from your corpus with his discus. Just as he has (unsuccessfully) attempted to do to me, over the years.
I agree with Glen (but I'd rather shot-put than discus). Whattaya say, Mr. T Lloyd? Can Matt post your essay? Maybe serialized, a page a week, so there's one less day Matt has to come up with something?
Tony, I think that you're on the right track here, and I have to say that, knowing Mr.Dow personally, he's a very clever guy who has a wife and two young daughters. The fact that he is able to be (occasionally) funny, and keep his lovely wife and two precocious daughters happy is astounding to me. I live alone, with my nine-year-old cat, and that is a monumentally difficult task.
Good on yer, Matt.
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