Monday 22 March 2021

Dave's favorite Bill Sienkiewicz New Mutants pages. (Thanks Jeff.)

 
Mondays.




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Ditto.


Tritto?
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29 comments:

Damian T. Lloyd, Esq. said...

Nobody is going to get arrested over The New Mutants, Dave.

-- Damian

Brian West said...

With Tamir Rice’s momma calling out the perfidy of the founders of BLM it’s gonna be very interesting to see how many more pileups there will be between white feminists and black feminists within that movement, the goals of one has not always been congruent with the goals of the other. Dave, even if a few might not want to hear it, is onto something there.

Damian T. Lloyd, Esq. said...

Yeah, Dave's on to something -- and only half a century after feminists themselves started discussing the issue.

-- D.

Erick said...

Jeff is an idiot. That is not news. It is just the truth. I did not say Dave should have hired a Black background artist instead of Ger or anyone. Dave hired numerous artists for features within Cerebus. Small two or three page comics showcasing an up and coming artist's ability. That is where Dave could have and should have made an attempt to hire a Black comic creator and yes he could have looked beyond Kitchener. Like I said, that does NOT make him a racist. It just means he never considered it or acted upon it. It appears that Jeff the Idiot, is the only one who thought I said Dave should have hired a Black background artist. Jeff, you Idiot I never said or implied that. But you certainly inferred that. You idiot. And that comment about his girlfriends, good gravy - do you even proof read what you type before it spews onto the page?

Erick said...

Now to address Dave's latest white tears. I have no issues with the creation of Black Panther, Luke Cage et al by white creators. Yes, it would have been great if the opportunities had existed at the time for Black creators to have been involved, but there were not and they were not. All that any creative artist wants ( in this case minority creatives) are opportunities, not a time machine. There is wilful ignorance on Dave's part not to recognize that. There is also wilful ignorance on the part of those who want to impose today's standards on the past. I find it telling and sad that the only Black writer Dave could think of, even in an sarcastic way, is Denys Cowan. If Dave does not read the comments, please let someone other than Jeff relay what has actually been said.

Jeff said...

Erick, looking back, I can see a case for your argument that I inferred that you were writing that Dave should have hired a Black background artist. You never actually wrote that, but I still think that you implied it. Tomaytoes, tomahtoes.

As to what you wrote about my comment that Dave utilized his girlfriends and wife as administrative assistants, I don't get your point. Dave did do that. You could look it up in the credits of the monthly issues. When Dave gave up women and sex, Gerhard took on most of the administrative duties, in addition to his art chores.

Regardless, your argument that Dave should have given opportunities to Black writers/artists is specious. The only place that he could have done so was in the back of the book (or through Aardvark One--a relatively short and failed venture that, IIRC, was Deni's project that she took with her in the divorce settlement and that became part of Renegade Press). *Any* artist or writer was encouraged to submit his or her story to A-V, Inc., for possible back-of-the-book inclusion.

Ergo, Dave did, in fact, provide an ongoing opportunity to Black artists and writers potentially to be published in "Cerebus", by A-V, Inc.

Also, I may be an idiot, but I like to think that I am a useful idiot.

Anonymous said...

Does anybody in comics whine and complain more about his life than Dave Sim? It's difficult to think of a bigger crybaby. Being aggrieved now seems to be his purpose in life.

Damian T. Lloyd, Esq. said...

There is sometimes a strange behaviour by young people just on the cusp of leaving childhood / entering adolescence. Denied the top prize they think they're due, they become self-destructive. You can practically hear them say, "Very well -- if I can't be the biggest success ever, I'll be the biggest failure ever!"

I think this may be the cause of some of Dave's more wackadoodle claims: he is the Pariah King of comics; Dave's career was destroyed by a feminist conspiracy; admiring the work of, associating with, or acknowledging the existence of Dave Sim will cost you your career; Cerebus was largely ignored by the comics field. None of that is true, but Dave keeps repeating these zombie lies decade after decade.

It's very funny to me to see a person who claims to be governed by pure rationality be so obviously completely ruled by his emotions.

-- Damian

Tony Dunlop said...

A couple of thoughts:
1. Brian, what did Tamir Rice's mother say about BLM? I missed that.
2. As for the Minneapolis City Council paying $27 million to Mr. Floyd's family: I'm almost certain they did that because their attorneys told them it was a lot cheaper than letting a Wrongful Death civil suit go to trial.
3. (although I think this was a different post): How does Dave know what people are writing in the comments at AMoC? I thought he didn't "have the Internet."

Tony again said...

PS Hey! Hobbs is getting married on my birthday! Mazel Tov!!!

Tony one more time said...

Ignore 3. above - Jeff "phoned it in." Just goes to show that I don't do more than casually skim these.

Anonymous said...

Then why did Ethan Van Sciver and Comicsgate stop working with Dave Sim?

Brian West said...

Tony, here you go.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theroot.com/tamir-rice-s-mother-calls-out-tamika-mallory-then-shau-1846497074/amp

Tony again said...

Thanks, Brian. There are some thoughtful discussions in the comments after the article, too.

Brian West said...

You’re welcome, Tony. Happy to be of service.

Jeff said...

Tony, I think (but have no way of knowing for sure) that Dave does monitor the AMOC comments. I keep him informed when someone...um... writes something egregiously or patently wrong.

If Dave doesn't do it, his assistant/s may do so and inform him.

Dave most definitely is internet-connected; he just judiciously limits his use of it.

Jeff said...

So, it's nice to see that Damian is now a self-appointed Developmental Psychologist, feeling free to diagnose Dave.

Congratulations on your Doctorate degree, Damian!

Anonymous said...

"It's very funny to me to see a person who claims to be governed by pure rationality be so obviously completely ruled by his emotions."

No kidding! It's psychotic the way he claims on the one hand to be purely logical and rational yet whine and cry like a child about his treatment at the hands of others. I don't see any other "serious" comic creators do this. The only ones who do are members of the "woke" community who spend their lives being aggrieved and "triggered" by everything around them! The serious artists I'm aware of are too focused on their work to address what others think of them, yet Dave does this VIRTUALLY EVERY DAY. I mean, I'm sorry his feelings are hurt but suck it up and get back to work.

As far as his role as pariah king, the weekly "Cerebus Around The World & Web" posts would seem to directly contradict that concept.

He also seems to desperately crave external validation. He certainly seems to think that Cerebus is *deserving* of more attention. Grow up, Dave. For all of Cerebus' merits, it doesn't exactly stand up to Milton or Shakespeare. I'm *sure* Dave would disagree.

RSS said...

#encore *still* waiting for the minders to green light the house assessment
Been thinking: If there are any feminists involved we might be SOL #noyathink?

RSS said...

And speaking of anti-work/anti-ability (see example, above), and just to piss off Matt: my question for April's Please Hold (he hasn't even asked for questions yet, that should piss him off too, right?) is exactly the same question (heh heh), only with that missing bit of context, feminism, added:

Question for Dave: Do you consider anti-work and anti-ability (again, I've seen lots of both) to be implicit in your consideration of feminism's negative impact on society? Certainly your own work/ability/success was impeded, at the very least.

Mouse Skull Entertainment said...

Erick: I've sent both of your comments (along with your comment from the other post) up to Dave. We'll see if he responds.

Jeff: You VERY much inferred what Erick said about Ger. I'll come back to this.
Also, Deni published through Aardvark-Vanaheim. When she left she took her creators to Renegade. Aardvark-One was what DAVE came up with to replace Aardvark-Vanaheim as a publisher of OTHER PEOPLE'S material. So, NO you don't "IIRC".
Also, also, Dave DOES NOT read the comments here. He used to (long before I took over), but realized it was an exercise in futility. I'll send a comment if it's a situation where I think it's warranted (a rare occurrence indeed)

Erick/Jeff: As I said to Dave in my last Fax to him:
Erick didn’t say you should have hired a black guy instead of Gerhard. He said you should have hired a black guy to do back-ups in Cerebus. (Which itself is a distortion of how the back-ups/previews in Cerebus worked. It wasn’t you hiring Evan Dorkin to do Milk and Cheese, or Terry Moore to do Strangers In Paradise, or Jeff Smith with Bone. It was you providing a platform for other creators to get eyeballs. But they weren’t exactly “according to Hoyle” employees of Aardvark-Vanaheim. They weren’t even freelancers (in the general comics market understanding of the term.) And as I said in my response to Erick’s first comment, you DID provide a platform for non-white, non-male, non-Canadian creators. But I think Erick’s argument is going to boil down to terminology…

Manly Matt Dow

Tony Dunlop said...

Hey Brian, thanks for pointing me to The Root. It's now part of my regular media diet! Good stuff; apparently well-moderated comments, too.

Brian West said...

You’re welcome, Tony. Happy to be of service.

Jeff said...

Well, Matt, that's why the caveat "IIRC" exists. But thank you for the kind corrections.

May I have another, sir?

Damian T. Lloyd, Esq. said...

Jeff S.: I have more degrees than you do -- and, unlike yours, none of mine are self-awarded 'cause I should have passed that class but the prof was against me. I can also read and understand simple English sentences; that puts me another one up on you. Given the regular misinterpretations between you and Dave that we've seen posted here in the past, I can only shudder to think of the inaccuracies in your spy's reports back to Sim Central.

-- Damian

RSS said...

Uh-oh... spurs and sixguns! Look out!
#tumbleweed

Jeff said...

Oh, look! Bitchy Damian is back!

Yay.

And, I have no idea what he's talking about. Other than earned college degrees.

So, Dr. Damian, what makes you think that I am incapable of reading and comprehending the English language (other than occasionally not comprehending some, you know, *actually English* words and phrases)?

Also, I don't "spy" here. I read and write. In English. If something egregious is written about Dave, then I give him a heads up. That's it.

But thanks for playing along with the nice people here. You know, the polite ones.

RSS said...
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RSS said...

[Edit]
sycophantry - hey, it's a real word!
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sycophantry
(why do I always come up with the archaic ones?)
(can I spell it correctly twice in a row, that's another question)